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Warpy

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1. Pueblo friends were discussing that when I first moved out here

Reply to Playinghardball (Original post)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 06:20 PM

Jun 2014

I just told them that white history books left out the operative word, that Columbus was the first imperialist European to "discover" land in the western hemisphere.

They rather liked that. They invited me back.

After all, the Norse had been here and at least one Irishman had been here and there are hints that the Polynesians, Japanese Ainu and Chinese also got here before a Spaniard claimed it for god, gold and glory for the King of Spain.

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We lived on this continent before it was *discovered*... [View all] Playinghardball Jun 2014 OP

Pueblo friends were discussing that when I first moved out here Warpy Jun 2014 #1

And Africans had been to the Americas, as well. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #3

His crew was a hell of a mix Warpy Jun 2014 #5

Cristoforo Colombo, he was Italian. Jenoch Jun 2014 #12

There's actually a significant amount of debate about that. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #27

Thanks for the information. Jenoch Jun 2014 #32

There is an excellent book about this time period... blackspade Jun 2014 #43

Nope. Warpy Jun 2014 #35

You wrote this an hour and 45 minutes Jenoch Jun 2014 #37

I'm skeptical d_r Jun 2014 #21

Brendan's story grew along with his thirst. Warpy Jun 2014 #36

Citation? blackspade Jun 2014 #44

Whatever his heritage ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #51

The pre-college 'history' class in my 1970's high school was called 'Western Civilization' htuttle Jun 2014 #2

A "Torch" was passed alright ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #4

Indeed. htuttle Jun 2014 #11

but it had little to do with civilization! AlbertCat Jun 2014 #28

Oh please what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #34

genocide, enslaving the native population and the looting of natural resources? AlbertCat Jun 2014 #42

The european concept of what constitutes " civilization ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #48

For example, property ownership ... a purely European concept AlbertCat Jun 2014 #49

My high school World History teacher taught that version in 1969-1970 csziggy Jun 2014 #13

We had mostly 'white' history in the 60's too mountain grammy Jun 2014 #33

If by 'torch' they meant burn everything to the ground..... blackspade Jun 2014 #45

I remember asking the question Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #6

i have a t-shirt unionthug777 Jun 2014 #9

Wrong answer Cartoonist Jun 2014 #10

You got the phrase wrong. Jenoch Jun 2014 #14

Marge Schott Cartoonist Jun 2014 #18

If I remember correctly, Jenoch Jun 2014 #23

Would you make a post like that indicting Islam for 9/11? tritsofme Jun 2014 #19

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cartoonist Jun 2014 #25

by allowed to live d_r Jun 2014 #22

Mission life Cartoonist Jun 2014 #30

It was because they weren't Christians. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #29

Geronimo panader0 Jun 2014 #7

I'm from the same clan denbot Jun 2014 #24

There is no history unless the Pale Face writes it. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #8

Nah. The victor or the government or the religion. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #15

I like to think of Little Big Horn as a victory. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #39

K&R! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #16

one of my favorites unionthug777 Jun 2014 #17

+1000 That's one of the best! countryjake Jun 2014 #20

+1 million Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #52

But you're still not from this continent. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #26

+100 ChazII Jun 2014 #47

So did the animal nations. L0oniX Jun 2014 #31

That always irks me. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #38

Bless their invaded hearts. :( Cha Jun 2014 #40

Because you see malaise Jun 2014 #41

yes they did, and we slaughtered a good deal of them. spanone Jun 2014 #46

Where is their birth certificates? Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #50

Excellent thread. K&R Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #53