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25. Yes, I think, I reason, I deduce

Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:56 AM

Dec 2011

And if you feel that a large share of our politicians aren't bought off I have some land in South Florida I'd like to sell you.

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Should there be, could there be a Progressive Party in the near future? [View all] Burgman Dec 2011 OP

No, no, and fuck no. TheWraith Dec 2011 #1

Wraith, Great Post Frances Dec 2011 #3

I agree. Starting a party at the national level is a wrong move. bluestate10 Dec 2011 #16

My initial reaction was Yes! Thinking along the lines gateley Dec 2011 #66

Actually, I remember when a lot of Democrats were like George Wallace. Democrats weren't WheelWalker Dec 2011 #100

Yeah, Biden mentioned that in his Esquire piece a week or so ago -- that the Dems used gateley Dec 2011 #109

Exactly, push the party Left through elections and public demand. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #21

No. But Progressive Dems should make themselves known by some preface like "Progressive"-Democrats. glinda Dec 2011 #37

Exactly - but that isn't the point of posts like the OP. BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #85

How exactly does the OP confuse people? nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #86

They may think that voting for some so-called third-party progressive at the national level works. BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #88

Many on the left see that they are being blackmailed into supporting a party that doesnt rhett o rick Dec 2011 #92

I'm not sure why you feel that you are being "blackmailed." BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #96

It is not hysterical. Instead of trying to win over the progressives with issues rhett o rick Dec 2011 #106

Thanks ... and hang in there! BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #113

+1 ut oh Dec 2011 #102

Help us elect the most progressive Democrat to come along BlueToTheBone Dec 2011 #111

While *we* got "Nader-ed" in 2000, *they* got "Perot-ed" in 1992. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2011 #6

So, we are stuck with Republican and DINO (Republican Lite) then? RC Dec 2011 #9

If you have a Republican Rep or Senator in your district, work to get Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #36

The BIGGEST roadblock to getting Progressive Senators elected IS the White House. bvar22 Dec 2011 #72

no...you and this article are wrong Sheepshank Dec 2011 #77

I was THERE. I SAW it in the Arkansas Democratic Primary 2010. bvar22 Dec 2011 #78

bvar is right. The WH has not supported progressives. If you dont agree show rhett o rick Dec 2011 #87

In point of fact, you are wrong, and not the other poster. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #91

WH does not dictate my personal choice... Sheepshank Dec 2011 #112

You said it very well. But we must take back the Democratic Party. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #90

As stated upthread, we need to build locally. It's not all or nothing. We can gateley Dec 2011 #68

I think you have captured the essence of the situation quite nicely. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #10

Like there's some deep significance to starting at the top eridani Dec 2011 #33

Just a nudge to support Inslee for Gov (and I'm sure you didn't really gateley Dec 2011 #70

Absolutely! eridani Dec 2011 #79

Couldn't have said it better. -nt CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #14

A third party candidacy helped bill clinton get elected. nt boston bean Dec 2011 #40

You might have a hard time proving that zipplewrath Dec 2011 #50

Well then, you better pay more heed to the progressives in your own party fascisthunter Dec 2011 #51

We Liberals/Progressives should heed the advice of Barry Goldwater amb123 Dec 2011 #56

Did you forget about Ross Perot and a Democrat winning that election? Bandit Dec 2011 #60

You are correct. The only way to do this is the way the Tbaggers took over the rethug party. We jwirr Dec 2011 #64

Thank You. So glad that is the first post under this trash OP. Raffi Ella Dec 2011 #75

There was one in the past. The Bull Moose Party. Teddy Roosevelt's progressive party. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #2

I thought Bull Moose was Theo. Hmmmm, Thanks for that. :) LaydeeBug Dec 2011 #4

Edited. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #7

And who was elected President when Roosevelt ran on the Bull Moose Party ticket? Frances Dec 2011 #5

Teddy Roosevelt was originally a Republican Zalatix Dec 2011 #8

Yep. Teddy set the bar for Progressivism. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #19

I would love to have more choices quinnox Dec 2011 #11

They'd have to work together treestar Dec 2011 #15

Clegg in Britain is a perfect example. bluestate10 Dec 2011 #22

I don't mind "compromise". bvar22 Dec 2011 #101

There are already more choices, at least in New York. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #103

A third party stands exactly zero chance in this current system. liberal N proud Dec 2011 #12

Don't agree that they are "all bought and paid for." treestar Dec 2011 #13

I think I kind of adressed that in the OP. Burgman Dec 2011 #17

No reason to panic treestar Dec 2011 #18

You "think". LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #24

Yes, I think, I reason, I deduce Burgman Dec 2011 #25

Is that so? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #94

I would assume it's better for him that people be convinced of what he's saying. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #95

I was addressing the tone you used with that poster, and not the poster's words. You know this. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #97

And? LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #98

So? And? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #99

0-6 with explicit jury nullification of third-party rules. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #31

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.Were you "Juried?" Burgman Dec 2011 #35

Yes, that is exactly what he's saying. City Lights Dec 2011 #61

mind telling us why you posted this? fascisthunter Dec 2011 #52

Mind telling me why you're asking. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #58

Are you trying to be obnoxious? Burgman Dec 2011 #73

I don't care if you're a life-long Democrat. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #74

When this country is reduced to a smoldering ruin, wrap yourself in your party pride... dorksied Dec 2011 #80

Most people here on DU don't appear to help fund campaigns. bluestate10 Dec 2011 #20

Hmmmm, you do have a point there. n/t Zalatix Dec 2011 #30

In fact with the internet and the ability to spread out the message on an easier platform treestar Dec 2011 #44

No. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #23

"Anyways?" Burgman Dec 2011 #26

You won't convince anyone with these snarky replies. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #27

Yes, I am most likely incomptent. I may be snarky at times. Burgman Dec 2011 #29

The influence might make some more people by applying a little leverage. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #89

Not without a different voting system bhikkhu Dec 2011 #28

What do you think a "progressive"platform would be? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #32

Sort of like what the Dems already have eridani Dec 2011 #34

Unfortunately they don't seem to ignore it so much as they actively work against it. nt stillwaiting Dec 2011 #41

The progressive caucus is the largest caucus in congress. joshcryer Dec 2011 #83

Yes. We can't expect change at the presidential level unless we do that. n/t eridani Dec 2011 #114

Wouldn't matter surfdog Dec 2011 #38

We already have one....but I won't mention it here :) AnOhioan Dec 2011 #39

Isn't there already an American party by that Name? DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #42

Our only hope for our lifetime is to either get the money out, mmonk Dec 2011 #43

No, however quaker bill Dec 2011 #45

I would love that because that would make it easier socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #110

The last time a new major party emerged and stayed was in the 1850's as the country teetered on the Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #46

There should be a number of parties to choose from Marrah_G Dec 2011 #47

I feel that the more power Democrats get, the more they act like Republicans Ferret Annica Dec 2011 #48

If there isn't, or if the Democratic Party doesn't become it, there will be no electoral solution. rug Dec 2011 #49

A party that is not over-run with corporatists, would be nice. comipinko Dec 2011 #53

Yes Absolutely Mosaic Dec 2011 #54

Anyone may start up any political party he or she wishes. MineralMan Dec 2011 #55

It is possible, and I for one would welcome it. nt NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #57

Whether there should be or not, really isn't going to matter, there will be.... Bandit Dec 2011 #59

You want a progressive party start from the ground and work up with the Democratic party LynneSin Dec 2011 #62

There must be tavalon Dec 2011 #63

Yes. Democracy is about the people having choices. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #65

Anyone supporting the spoiler effect is supporting, directly, the Repub's destruction of America saras Dec 2011 #67

No. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #69

Should a radical mass socialist political party be supported by those who want to change the system? Better Believe It Dec 2011 #71

Personally...I think it would be as effective and popular as TEA group. Sheepshank Dec 2011 #76

I predict that once the Republican party implodes, it if doesn't adapt... joshcryer Dec 2011 #81

What's the potential for the Democratic Party becoming progressive? K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #82

It is silly to equate the Democrats and Republicans karynnj Dec 2011 #84

Only with INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING Martin Eden Dec 2011 #93

Yes and no. Deep13 Dec 2011 #104

Everyone loses when there are only two choices. See, e.g. "lesser of 2 evils" argument. DirkGently Dec 2011 #105

Yes. We need to take the Democratic Party back to its liberal roots by Cleita Dec 2011 #107

There should be..... Hulk Dec 2011 #108