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LeftyMom

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27. There's actually a significant amount of debate about that.

Reply to Jenoch (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:23 PM

Jun 2014

The details of his early life are somewhere between sketchy and non-existent. There's some suspicion that he was a Spanish converso, but of course he'd want to hide that at that time period.

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We lived on this continent before it was *discovered*... [View all] Playinghardball Jun 2014 OP

Pueblo friends were discussing that when I first moved out here Warpy Jun 2014 #1

And Africans had been to the Americas, as well. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #3

His crew was a hell of a mix Warpy Jun 2014 #5

Cristoforo Colombo, he was Italian. Jenoch Jun 2014 #12

There's actually a significant amount of debate about that. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #27

Thanks for the information. Jenoch Jun 2014 #32

There is an excellent book about this time period... blackspade Jun 2014 #43

Nope. Warpy Jun 2014 #35

You wrote this an hour and 45 minutes Jenoch Jun 2014 #37

I'm skeptical d_r Jun 2014 #21

Brendan's story grew along with his thirst. Warpy Jun 2014 #36

Citation? blackspade Jun 2014 #44

Whatever his heritage ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #51

The pre-college 'history' class in my 1970's high school was called 'Western Civilization' htuttle Jun 2014 #2

A "Torch" was passed alright ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #4

Indeed. htuttle Jun 2014 #11

but it had little to do with civilization! AlbertCat Jun 2014 #28

Oh please what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #34

genocide, enslaving the native population and the looting of natural resources? AlbertCat Jun 2014 #42

The european concept of what constitutes " civilization ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #48

For example, property ownership ... a purely European concept AlbertCat Jun 2014 #49

My high school World History teacher taught that version in 1969-1970 csziggy Jun 2014 #13

We had mostly 'white' history in the 60's too mountain grammy Jun 2014 #33

If by 'torch' they meant burn everything to the ground..... blackspade Jun 2014 #45

I remember asking the question Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #6

i have a t-shirt unionthug777 Jun 2014 #9

Wrong answer Cartoonist Jun 2014 #10

You got the phrase wrong. Jenoch Jun 2014 #14

Marge Schott Cartoonist Jun 2014 #18

If I remember correctly, Jenoch Jun 2014 #23

Would you make a post like that indicting Islam for 9/11? tritsofme Jun 2014 #19

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cartoonist Jun 2014 #25

by allowed to live d_r Jun 2014 #22

Mission life Cartoonist Jun 2014 #30

It was because they weren't Christians. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #29

Geronimo panader0 Jun 2014 #7

I'm from the same clan denbot Jun 2014 #24

There is no history unless the Pale Face writes it. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #8

Nah. The victor or the government or the religion. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #15

I like to think of Little Big Horn as a victory. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #39

K&R! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #16

one of my favorites unionthug777 Jun 2014 #17

+1000 That's one of the best! countryjake Jun 2014 #20

+1 million Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #52

But you're still not from this continent. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #26

+100 ChazII Jun 2014 #47

So did the animal nations. L0oniX Jun 2014 #31

That always irks me. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #38

Bless their invaded hearts. :( Cha Jun 2014 #40

Because you see malaise Jun 2014 #41

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Where is their birth certificates? Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #50

Excellent thread. K&R Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #53