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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts) Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:29 PM Jun 2014

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Watching Iraq disintegrate makes me want to break things. [View all]

I'm quite sure I'm not alone here in this.

We were right. We tried, GOD, we tried.

Guess what, folks? Here we go again. Iraq War 3.0, with theater-wide implications to boot, because the Smart People don't ever listen to the street-shouters until it is way, way too late.

Don't worry, though. The same people will get rich off this all over again - shit, we're about to sell Iraq F-16s even as the walls come down - because the business of America is business.

And that, apparently, is all that matters.

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Watching Iraq disintegrate makes me want to break things. [View all] WilliamPitt Jun 2014 OP

I hear ya, Will. roamer65 Jun 2014 #1

WAR... billhicks76 Jun 2014 #30

Nah, we're not going in brush Jun 2014 #50

Spot on except for one thing..(maybe) Volaris Jun 2014 #55

Good point brush Jun 2014 #63

What makes you think Obama's not beholden to the same interests that owned W? GliderGuider Jun 2014 #86

No disagreement here brush Jun 2014 #113

I believe you are so correct tavalon Jun 2014 #123

What is the difference on the receiving end of bombs or bullets? bvar22 Jun 2014 #95

Agree with the outcome - slaughtered by bombs or bullets erronis Jun 2014 #104

You're right about that brush Jun 2014 #110

You really need to read about the things the British empire did mythology Jun 2014 #121

It's certainly debatable . . . brush Jun 2014 #124

Some things are so painfully obvious. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #2

Bingo Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #33

The ISIS is coming over from Syria, and heading toward Baghdad. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #78

And consider this: truedelphi Jun 2014 #108

Um, interesting. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #117

What wee the motives of the death squads in Central America that operated truedelphi Jun 2014 #138

And given that we went into Iraq in order to secure their oil truebluegreen Jun 2014 #142

CIA is one rogue outfit. truedelphi Jun 2014 #153

I'm not a fan of the MIC or the CIA truebluegreen Jun 2014 #154

The article I cite was written bythe same person who truedelphi Jun 2014 #155

OK. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #156

Me too. There may be a hidden agenda. And ballyhoo Jun 2014 #84

Just one correction...apache attack copters not f16's... Otherwise...i'm screaming at the tv. Drew Richards Jun 2014 #3

"As Iraq Falls Apart, U.S. F-16 Deliveries Still Set to Begin" WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #13

Trust me people with boots on the ground want air cav support. The gov will request it tomorrow Drew Richards Jun 2014 #14

I doubt they have pilots for either though so what good are f16 or chopper. Drew Richards Jun 2014 #16

Sunni Iraqi pilots with training (at our expense of course) will join the militants bklyncowgirl Jun 2014 #66

You got it-- ballyhoo Jun 2014 #85

same civil war bigtree Jun 2014 #4

Of Course That Could Include The Roux Comes First Jun 2014 #6

The thing that makes me angry is jimlup Jun 2014 #5

And he is about to eat that bag of shit with a spoon. morningfog Jun 2014 #8

Nah, he's smarter than W was . . . brush Jun 2014 #64

Smarter, yes. FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #92

Pls see my reply above to post #95. nt brush Jun 2014 #114

I'm afraid that one is invisible to me. FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #116

I'll try posting the reply mentioned brush Jun 2014 #118

Thanks. FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #120

Damn right he was. RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #23

He was handed war crimes including Whistle Blowers who revealed more of them. He chose to move sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #46

+1 LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #99

Sometimes you have to make sacrifices, and not being elected for a second term in the WH isn't sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #111

I suspect that, in retrospect, not trying, or at least, trying to charge those war criminals maddiemom Jun 2014 #145

Yes, history probably will record it as a huge mistake. The decision certainly got nothing for him sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #151

+1000 blackspade Jun 2014 #102

Wars without end. morningfog Jun 2014 #7

But, But, But, Politicalboi Jun 2014 #9

The MIC is drooling at the thought of more war. neverforget Jun 2014 #10

I certainly agree, Will. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #11

I was at protests EVERY DAMN WEEKEND! RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #29

Thanks! And I'm a fan of General Butler, too. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #34

You wanna talk cold? RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #36

Oh! I remember Maurice Hinchey! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #39

Yeah, I am stuck with Gibson now RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #62

Hey Rocco, I'm from Rosendale tomg Jun 2014 #112

I used to live in Accord. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #134

I remember Maurice Hinchey too, he is a great Democrat. I was reading DU one day when I sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #51

if mass media gave our protests of thousands the credence they give to a dozen tea party doofs 0rganism Jun 2014 #89

I don't think we'll do much of anything LittleBlue Jun 2014 #12

When the people do not want a return to war, the actions become covert: truedelphi Jun 2014 #107

Guess what? It's been long enough nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #15

Thank you. vlakitti Jun 2014 #20

Don't worry, things are breaking themselves mindwalker_i Jun 2014 #17

F/ck a million dead persons, there's LOTS OF PROFIT in war. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #18

The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Jun 2014 #19

Same as it ever was... countryjake Jun 2014 #24

I went to every protest w/in 50 miles...... alittlelark Jun 2014 #21

Here's a little thing that I sent to Mike Malloy tonight RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #22

If THEY Break it... WE Own It... Sorry, Not Funny... But I Feel The Same As You... WillyT Jun 2014 #25

Being right laundry_queen Jun 2014 #26

death has always been good business mopinko Jun 2014 #27

We should not do air strikes. New reports outside USA say Mosul is quiet. Civilians preferring kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #28

A war based on LIES, as WE all knew back in 2002. madinmaryland Jun 2014 #31

This is heartbreaking. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #32

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck CrispyQ Jun 2014 #35

I keep thinking about the Iraqi people Skittles Jun 2014 #37

You got that right Adsos Letter Jun 2014 #44

I'm with ya, Will. Makes me furious and sad... countryjake Jun 2014 #38

No, definitely not alone The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #40

'36 million people across the globe took part in almost 3,000 protests against the Iraq war' G_j Jun 2014 #41

This is having a bad affect on the Iraqi/Afghani Vets suffering from PTSD GoldenOldie Jun 2014 #42

We should do nothing. Let the Iranians support their puppets against the sunnis there. We've paid craigmatic Jun 2014 #43

Just realize we are backing the Saudis who are very unpopular with thinking people and all is clear. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #45

And we're going to hear continuous screaming that it's all Obama's fault. Kablooie Jun 2014 #47

I am so sick of our country getting involved with so much war. antiGOPin294 Jun 2014 #48

tax cuts enid602 Jun 2014 #49

KnR, Will. I marched every weekend, too. Hekate Jun 2014 #52

Were we right, you ask? another_liberal Jun 2014 #53

I, too, at first read that sentence bbgrunt Jun 2014 #58

Glad I was reading it wrong . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #61

Hi. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #68

Greetings, Will. another_liberal Jun 2014 #146

The honor is mine. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #147

This past week marks 9 years since my cousin was killed in Iraq. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #54

... --- ... WillyT Jun 2014 #56

Thank you very much. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #57

incidentally joe biden was right belltower Jun 2014 #59

he certainly was reddread Jun 2014 #129

We are in a car going 90 miles per hour, driven by sociopaths. woo me with science Jun 2014 #60

You are of the false belief that we are still in the car. Javaman Jun 2014 #72

We are in the trunk Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #76

that's a better anology... Javaman Jun 2014 #77

Like being a kidnapping victim. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #82

I really dont have any words. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #65

I'm past breaking things Separation Jun 2014 #67

once upon a time... Javaman Jun 2014 #69

Jesus. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #75

"Gulf war 4, give some more!" Enthusiast Jun 2014 #96

It will happen over and over and over workinclasszero Jun 2014 #70

Self-perpetuating. Orsino Jun 2014 #71

The worst is John McCain trying to say he knew all along. EEO Jun 2014 #73

McCain better STFU before someone with guts and brains puts him right Boomerproud Jun 2014 #143

K&R. It's horrible. DanTex Jun 2014 #74

Get Fired UP yellowwoodII Jun 2014 #79

And this time Stryst Jun 2014 #149

A idea, possibility, or....something. Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #80

We really were right Oilwellian Jun 2014 #81

I can't even look at it. Knew this would eventually happen from the day they lied us into that shit lonestarnot Jun 2014 #83

I wish we had access to those 2002-3 DU threads rocktivity Jun 2014 #87

i remember saying this exact thing would happen back in 2002 0rganism Jun 2014 #88

Profit over anything N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2014 #90

I'm wondering right now...how many times will I need to post this video before I die. Zorra Jun 2014 #91

Might be impossible for our country to make right a tragic wiggs Jun 2014 #93

Don't be angry. Our wars are always worthwhile. Rich people get richer, after all. nt valerief Jun 2014 #94

self deleted lark Jun 2014 #97

It's the same religious, ethnic, tribal wars that have been going on for a thousand years. Fla Dem Jun 2014 #98

Looks like it's BOHICA time, boys and girls. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2014 #100

This is a heartbreaking thread. liberalmuse Jun 2014 #101

I know what you mean LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #103

And business is good... NC_Nurse Jun 2014 #105

I wish we could vote out everyone who voted for this war. ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #106

The video of Cheney as SoS under Bush I defending not deposing Hussein was eye-opening for me. Vattel Jun 2014 #109

An unstable region... TommyCelt Jun 2014 #115

mission fucking accomplished onethatcares Jun 2014 #119

I said before, it would decades to repair all of that goddamn Bush's damage. santamargarita Jun 2014 #122

There is an easy way for Mr. Obama to avoid going to war and shut the Republicans up as well. TiredOfNo Jun 2014 #125

This Reminds Me Of The Last Weeks Of Vietnam DallasNE Jun 2014 #126

Yes, and we'll keep trying. n/t Duval Jun 2014 #127

So how will Congress and the Senate vote this time? WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #128

I bet GWB is working his easel overtime. Snarkoleptic Jun 2014 #130

When you fail to teach true history obxhead Jun 2014 #131

sadly, I do not think any of us here are in the least surprised. niyad Jun 2014 #132

It makes me SICK! I've no use for today's "war". AAO Jun 2014 #133

What is happening in Iraq is 100% totally avebury Jun 2014 #135

It was all predictable. MineralMan Jun 2014 #136

The US invaded Iraq on my 35th birthday. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #137

I am especially sad, frustrated and angry liberalhistorian Jun 2014 #139

RW mentality. A guy from Facebook.... Lobo27 Jun 2014 #140

Two facts, sad and true DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #141

Wait, there's more than one kind of Muslim in Iraq? Babel_17 Jun 2014 #144

Of course we were right. aquart Jun 2014 #148

Didn't the British join the three factions into one mwdem Jun 2014 #150

lotsa Ottoman maps MisterP Jun 2014 #152

Punish them by electing more liberal Democrats to every office IronLionZion Jun 2014 #157