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In reply to the discussion: Truvia sweetener a powerful pesticide; scientists shocked as fruit flies die in less than a week [View all]pbmus
(13,141 posts)I have conversations with them over coffee and we reminisce about days gone by. These farmers owned 50 to 300 acres, with a few wealthy ones owning more. Most of these farming families were very good stewards of their land. The conversations usually center around family and a little politics but then sometimes gets back to what is happening to farming in America. Sometimes the talk becomes visceral around the subjects of crop yields and the hucksters on the commodity exchanges. The talk becomes particularly loud when the words agri-business come up and the many farmers they know that sold their farms for various reasons. Those reasons included; age, an heir willing to work and pray (for the sun to come up, but mainly for the rain to fall), crop yields, and money (more than they had ever been offered or thought could be offered per acre). These friends know now after these many years of seeing what agri-business has done with their farms exactly what is happening, and of course, we all intuitively know what they know.
That the business of agriculture in the USA today is disrupting the balance of the natural cycle of nature. This is just a couple of many disrupting examples:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120227111158.htm
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Bt_Toxin_Kills_Human_Kidney_Cells.php
You have stated that I am incorrect because there is no "credible evidence". My credible evidence is everywhere around me, I have so much evidence that it astounds me sometimes to see the veracity of change in my own environment. I look out my window and see no butterflies, I see less birds, I see fewer bees, and I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. The evidence is literally everywhere that I look with a critical thinking brain.
You have also again tried to mitigate with words like "pseudo, shrilly, advocacy, zero weight", that real scientists read this research and see the flaws immediately. I believe that more and more true scientists are beginning to step up to the plate and serve the American public some true research.
You are so 100% sure when you say it doesn't matter how much Bt I or my friends eat.. FYI: In well regarded institutions of higher learning (where you get your research from) they are still using the words "considered safe" amongst a host of other disclaiming words (likely so that in the future, when the lawsuits start raining down upon their heads, they can point to the disclaimers.)
Your assumptions that small farmers cannot feed the world and that I am being idealistic is just ..... oh well. .....
And the explanation of DDt being used in the tropics is one that I would like to explore further with you. Would you so kindly give me the name of the manufacturer of DDT. Thank you.