The 8 Biggest Lies Men's Rights Activists Spread About Women

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95. I disagree with nearly all your points because your avoiding the issues being raised.

1. "Feminists hate men

This has nothing to do with pair bonding because it's about how a ideologue engaged in a ideology sees people. By your pair bonding logic we would not have to worry about either sex 'hating' each other but feminist often insist a great many problems are caused by 'misogyny'. Your position contradicts feminists own perspective on gender relations. In fact if you go into a feminists focused thread and listen to feminist you'll hear endless list of fears and complaints about men whom they presume think or act the way they do because they don't like women. If people take up the mindset that some people hate or fears them it's likely they will resent if not hate people. This is common sense. Feminist do engage in a great deal of male resentment, fear, if not hate at the very least rhetorically.

2. "Feminists are hypocrites, because chivalry is a female privilege."

Chivalry is a privilege and it's hypocrisy to ignore it. To some extent this is ignored because we become some complacent with our gender biases that favor women. Expecting men to defend women is something we take for granted as a society and feminist do the same. If women's gender role conferred no privilege it would make very little sense in a world where men were competing for the favor of women as you stated. Of course women competed for men but not by defending them from physical threats or providing them with material resources for survival. The patriarchy was setup to have men perform these roles and as such giving women these 'privileges' was expected of them. We still see these patterns in the dialog on the sexes. The focus stays on providing for and protecting women because that's what men were expected to do.

3. "The courts are biased against men and in favor of women in custody disputes."

You're way off target because you assume this standards " The Courts are bias in favor of whoever has the child at the time the case gets in front of the Court. " is not the bias they are talking about. The rest is irrelevant because you made the case for bias especially if the man didn't have the children because he was WORKING TO SUPPORT THEM! Since MRA's push for 'Shared Custody' as a default that would mitigate such inequality they'd see this current system as biased if a custody fight is required to gain equal access to your children.

4. "Male circumcision is just as bad as female genital mutilation"!!!!

There are 4000 nerve endings in that foreskin. It was not made obsolete by clothes. I have one of these penis things and clothes hurt as they rub against the exposed head. Your observations were far to dismissive on a issue that comes down to bodily autonomy. Chopping off body parts is mutilation. We're not talking about stuff that grows back.

"5. Men have always been drafted, for in most cases Armies need people with upper body strength which men tend to have more of then women."

We always had segregated schools said the segregationist. Appeals to tradition aren't real arguments. It's a privilege to not get drafted as they stated.

"6. Men objectified? Yes, men are made fun of, but people always make fun of their superiors"

Sexist and stupid. Men aren't women's superiors and men and women relate person to person not group to group. We are talking about individuals operating in a equality framework with equal populations and considerable influence and power on both sides. Men fear women's judgment and women's men's. Being seen as a fool to the other would bother both.

"7. False rape charges are endemic??

This line here "Rape is an attack on women. " No it's an attack on a person. Anything put in the sexist frame work that marginalizes victims is invalid and so goes much of your commentary on rape.
"I bring this up for there is to much rape in the world today, and false accusations comes no where near the actual level of rape and thus a false charge in its face. "

The point of bringing up false accusations only relates to what's reported and what proportion of that is false. I don't believe their is a epidemic of false accusations but they do exist. If we assume none exist then guilt is presumed and justice goes out the window. We must remained unbiased as possible.

"8. "Feminists want to turn everything into rape". Yes and no."

Since the point is hyperbole I can't address this literally. To say they expand the definition of rape beyond most peoples accepted range the answer would be yes and it runs the risk of trivializing rape. If we call rape a whole range of offenses that border on thought crimes like rape by misrepresenting one's feelings for a person or threatening to leave them to gain sex we make a person who was truly forced to have sex appear far less significant.

Another real danger is someone using the lower unapproved threshold could end up making false rape accusations on that basis.


"Notice such feminists are NOT taking about rape itself, but that woman often give up equal rights to keep peace with their sexual partner."

That makes no sense to me. People make concessions for peace with their partners, not just women. Compromise is something we do in relationships. Giving up freedom or 'rights' voluntarily is that individuals business but it's also their right to leave the relationship at anytime.