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In reply to the discussion: Watching Iraq disintegrate makes me want to break things. [View all]belltower
(74 posts)I seem to remember when we first went to Iraq -- because Biden did agree the threat of Iraq being a conduit for arming some really horrible extremists, was real -- he spoke of the need to create three near-autonomous states per the Yugoslavia model. Ya can't stop the flow of history, ya try to channel it, he'd say, you try to soften history's blows the best you can. I completely agreed with his analysis, and have no doubt that Obama does too. And that they expected the country to be riven by civil way within a year or so of our leaving -- it's the flow of history, stupid. It's in the best interests of the country not to act stupid.
So there is no fucking way Obama will send in troops again. Rather, the really entertaining chapter is the one now coming up, where the country finally faces the fact that we've got hospitals overflowing and triaging like crazy with sick solders of a we're-number-one military that lost two consecutive major military engagements, that we've been (involved with?) the aggressor in something like 208 of the 245 conflicts since 1945, and what the hell has it gotten us other than a sick planet, a suck economy, a stick government, a slick oligarchy -- all in all, a medicated, sad society?
Joe was right. Joe was right. Now Hillary says it was her vote for Iraq was her biggest mistake in her legislative life. How superficial a self-analysis THAT one is. Jeesh the woman begins her coronation with a mea culpa? Shortly I guess she'll stab her Democratic President in the back on this issue, as she did in the Sawyer interview re POW swap.
Sure would be interesting to see the progressives coalesce around a Biden-Warren ticket -- surely these two very competent people reflect the rising populism of the moment (see Cantor), not a ticket that features a Clinton or some other obvious Wall Street mobster.