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madfloridian

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7. Obama is stuck with no good options because of Bush's evil war.

Reply to Hekate (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:32 AM

Jun 2014

My whole view of our country, our politicians, changed so much when we invaded that country.

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Iraq changed who we are as a nation. A new moral tone was set. [View all] madfloridian Jun 2014 OP

Rather well put. n/t JayhawkSD Jun 2014 #1

Bremer "fired 500,000 state workers... soldiers, but also doctors, nurses, teachers, publishers.. madfloridian Jun 2014 #2

Scott Walker is following this script postulater Jun 2014 #16

And nobody is doing a damn thing about it other than the few brave on the ground randys1 Jun 2014 #26

You mean this Colin? GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #41

We were all witnesses to this travesty, this destruction of who we thought we were Hekate Jun 2014 #3

Obama is stuck with no good options because of Bush's evil war. madfloridian Jun 2014 #7

Mine too. I've never been able to feel the same about my own country... Hekate Jun 2014 #9

Maybe we should just cut to the chase and call America... nikto Jun 2014 #11

I never will. We're a country, a blended nation--not the purview of any one ethnic group or race Hekate Jun 2014 #13

Just for the phrase "Shock and Awe" they should all be in prison, motherphuckers randys1 Jun 2014 #27

Mad, you are so right I have always admired you and akbacchus_BC Jun 2014 #4

Everything we do as a nation affects other countries, not just us. madfloridian Jun 2014 #6

yes. that pretty much crushed the soul of this nation. bbgrunt Jun 2014 #5

It did. madfloridian Jun 2014 #33

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #8

Yes. he did. madfloridian Jun 2014 #46

Another wonderful post, full of truth nikto Jun 2014 #10

It did start in 2000, and of course the media went along. madfloridian Jun 2014 #45

And I could add... nikto Jun 2014 #47

I still remember his statement: madfloridian Jun 2014 #48

It's pretty unbelievable what the masses will buy into with the right salesman nikto Jun 2014 #53

There does not seem to be any way back to being what the USA once may have been or actually was. xocet Jun 2014 #12

Prosecution of war criminals.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #19

On that terrible day in 2003 that so-called "Shock and Awe" began, BlueMTexpat Jun 2014 #14

Subtract 11, 12 years from the ages of many here at the forum now... madfloridian Jun 2014 #20

We likely both remember that Bush & Cheney started talking about attacking Iraq BlueMTexpat Jun 2014 #22

How we got here has always been a state of shame. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #15

Thoughtful post. You are right. No good options. madfloridian Jun 2014 #21

An excellent post malaise Jun 2014 #17

Yes, the behavior of barbarians...well said. madfloridian Jun 2014 #29

As I wrote in another thread... Javaman Jun 2014 #18

I was reading the other day that a pipeline runs right under Babylon. madfloridian Jun 2014 #25

and let's not forget that for the first time our national policy was to torture our enemies. spanone Jun 2014 #23

Very true. madfloridian Jun 2014 #31

...and our media is STILL playing along. spanone Jun 2014 #32

Immoral. Amoral. woo me with science Jun 2014 #24

And craven politicians now say "mistakes were made" and "we were misled" to avoid responsibility. chrisa Jun 2014 #28

That statement angers me..when they say "mistakes" were made. madfloridian Jun 2014 #38

If nothing else be sure to read OP link to Christian Cowboy at Guardian UK. Very revealing madfloridian Jun 2014 #30

Christian Cowboy = Redemptive violence The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #34

That came from Jim Wallis? madfloridian Jun 2014 #35

My point wasn't about the person, it was about the use of violence The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #36

Oh, I knew what you were saying. madfloridian Jun 2014 #37

I'm mad and a Florida ex-pat The Blue Flower Jun 2014 #43

The pain is still fresh... Phentex Jun 2014 #39

It really is. madfloridian Jun 2014 #40

How could good Christian people support this war? dem in texas Jun 2014 #51

I heard our Southern Baptist church was calling it a holy war... madfloridian Jun 2014 #52

President Obama became complicit ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #42

Yes, Bush and Cheney at a minimum should have been called to account. madfloridian Jun 2014 #44

In defense of the Bush Admin Shankapotomus Jun 2014 #49

..... madfloridian Jun 2014 #50