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cali

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26. why is that a win? Has it benefited the Iraqi people in any substantial way?

Reply to Demo_Chris (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 13, 2014, 05:32 AM

Jun 2014

I certainly think he was a bad actor, but I sure don't think his removal from power and death are a "big win" for the Iraqi people in any significant way- at least not compared to the instability and death and destruction that have reigned in Iraq due to the invasion by the U.s.

And it sure the fuck is NOT solely up to the Iraqi people. The U.S. broke that country. Not saying we should muck about more, but it's the death and destruction ensuing from that evil, stupid shit war, is the responsibility of the country.

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Hussein is dead. That's a big win right there. As for the rest... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #23

why is that a win? Has it benefited the Iraqi people in any substantial way? cali Jun 2014 #26

I doubt I can convince you, but... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #29

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. Do you offer any evidence for your claims? NO cali Jun 2014 #30

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