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In reply to the discussion: McCain has totally lost his mind... [View all]Justice
(7,242 posts)61. you have to read the articles I linked at #24.
"The Bush administration negotiated the final withdrawal with the government of Iraq. They didn't want us to leave any troops there."
McCain now saying that he negotiated in 2011 to extend the time and allow for a residual force. Obama didn't do that.
Condi said everyone knew we'd renegotiate and stay after 2011.
I am not saying I agree with this, just clarifying McCain's argument. It is unbelievable to me that these people lied to us about going in, the lied about how bad it was, and how much it would cost, and about how long it would take. McCain says now that of course needed residual troops, have them in Korea and Japan and Bosnia - everyone knows that and everyone knows needed them. But that is not what we were told on day 1 or in 2008.
If the American people were told the truth in 2003 - no WMD, no timeframe, would not be seen as liberators, the country was held together by a dictator and when he is gone there will be 3 factions, the oil would not pay for the billions of dollars the war cost, we would lose 4000 American troops - etc etc etc. - I am confident the US would not have supported this war.
(I didn't support it then because there was no proof of WMD).
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and yet apparently our soldier's lives were WASTED over there -- according to the same idiot
tomm2thumbs
Jun 2014
#54
Well, I kind of agree. There was no reason to attack Iraq, therefore no reason to lose lives in Iraq
AAO
Jun 2014
#80
McCain, like the vast majority of Americans, is ignorant of the history and facts. True.
Fred Sanders
Jun 2014
#79
McCain is all about propping up the MIC so no "cross purposes" for him and his cronies
riderinthestorm
Jun 2014
#94
It amused me during the '08 campaign when he claimed that he was more familiar with foreign affairs
fujiyama
Jun 2014
#110
He is just saying that if you break it, you own it. He will not address the point of not picking it
DrDan
Jun 2014
#12
Except there was never a "war." We illegally invaded, and ergo forced patriots to defend THEIR
WinkyDink
Jun 2014
#84
I'm seeing it, and it's classic McCain, so if he lost his mind, he did it years ago.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jun 2014
#8
McCain Strolls Through Baghdad Market, Accompanied By 100 Soldiers, 3 Blackhawks, 2 Apache Gunships
malaise
Jun 2014
#20
McCain: residual force of 10,000 to 15,000 troops needed; linked articles below
Justice
Jun 2014
#24
I literally laughed out loud for a few! Definitely have a funny streak there, David.
Mnemosyne
Jun 2014
#114