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24. if it is a one sided conflict, then the rebels do not have enough political support

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:13 AM

Apr 2012

inside the country to rule
if the rebels are in realistic contention for power by arms, then it is a civil war
in our civil war, the union army's siege of richmond was also atrocious, else the end justifies the means

do syrian rebels have enough support to make a civil war, with atrocities to be named by the winners?
in what way does the sos describe her confidence in assad's replacements?

on the other hand, if the op does not respond to anyone, then
we bin trolld 4 teh lulz

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Who is Hillary Clinton to say Assad must go? [View all] cqo_000 Apr 2012 OP

Obama admin's SOS, voicing the views of the Obama admin? Skip Intro Apr 2012 #1

Yep. She (and others in the cabinet) don't get to REALLY express their opinions. She wouldn't gateley Apr 2012 #4

agree - except one detail. HRC saying it makes it official karynnj Apr 2012 #76

Agree. nt gateley Apr 2012 #81

The United States Secretary of State jberryhill Apr 2012 #2

US has been doing this for Decades cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #3

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #16

Same thing in South America. So you are correct. Nothing has changed, except that South America sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #28

Secretary of State. Our rep to the rest of the world, including Syria. pinto Apr 2012 #5

Somebody has to say he must go. HC is SOS and it's her job. Cleita Apr 2012 #6

I didn't see any news shows about the recent vote showing Syrians want Assad to go. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #38

Watch Al Jazeera and you will get the real news about Syria and Cleita Apr 2012 #41

Al-Jazeera, owned by the state of Qatar and its 186-year hereditary dynasty, the Al-Thani family. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #75

Well, maybe your cavalier dismissal of what is a good news source, regardless of who owns it, Cleita Apr 2012 #80

Personal attack is no substitute for facts. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #82

Here are some facts. Cleita Apr 2012 #84

Because something is written in a 2009 booklet, that means it's the usual practice? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #85

You seem to find stuff that suits your agenda while ignoring Cleita Apr 2012 #87

I have an agenda, but you don't? The fact is that Syria, like Libya and Iraq before it, is not HiPointDem Apr 2012 #90

Okay, you want to talk about human rights violations? Cleita Apr 2012 #94

I'm afraid that the strawman belongs to you. I've been discussing actual practice in Qatar in HiPointDem Apr 2012 #98

"Hadn't heard that either." Cleita Apr 2012 #100

You're saying that Rupert Murdoch and Fox News run the country? I thought it was the owners of the HiPointDem Apr 2012 #102

welcome to DU - and thumbs up on a very good/solid series of posts! inna Apr 2012 #118

Who are you? The voice of Assad? Confusious Apr 2012 #7

+++ Cleita Apr 2012 #8

if it is a one sided conflict, then the rebels do not have enough political support tiny elvis Apr 2012 #24

Assad has a powerful army to squash any dissent and yet Cleita Apr 2012 #64

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. We support Democracy, not Dictatorships. Ian David Apr 2012 #9

Sorry, we have a history of supporting dictators. Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, The Shah of Iran, sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #30

Message board policy and U.S. policy do not always agree. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #31

No they don't. I do not support US support for dictators, neither do most Progressive Democrats sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #32

I don't believe I said that you did. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #34

Our country certainly does support dictators who are obedient to our interests, however, Cleita Apr 2012 #55

US, Britain, France seek formal UN deadline for Assad (AFP) pinto Apr 2012 #10

A stridently pro-Assad post. Awesome! cthulu2016 Apr 2012 #11

Shh... Is clever psychological war operation jberryhill Apr 2012 #12

+1000 bonus points for "The Russians Are Coming" reference Richardo Apr 2012 #21

She is United States Secretary of State. And, the people of Syria DO want him to go, Lil Missy Apr 2012 #13

on this ms. clinton and the syrian people are on the same page arely staircase Apr 2012 #14

In my opinion, this post is absurd! I am trashing it. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #15

Actually, Syrians seem quite divided on whether he should go or stay. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #17

Our media has barely covered this. Cleita Apr 2012 #19

Who is "the middle east media"? Just as our home media slants coverage toward certain political HiPointDem Apr 2012 #44

Al Jazeera, for all your sneering, has pretty good unbiased coverage of a variety of Cleita Apr 2012 #48

It's not sneering. I am pointing out that Al Jazeera, and ME media generally, is owned by very HiPointDem Apr 2012 #49

Really? Free Speech TV isn't left and Fox isn't right? Cleita Apr 2012 #50

Prime Minister of Qatar is an Al-Thani. PM has been an Al-Thani since the Brits installed the HiPointDem Apr 2012 #52

But if he's a good PM, why not? Cleita Apr 2012 #53

You neglected the "et cetera," which encompasses the Al-Thanis holding the rest of the pivotal HiPointDem Apr 2012 #58

Additionally, the people of the Middle Easy have spoken... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #60

Some are speaking. Others are being arrested. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #68

Is that somewhere near New Orleans? jberryhill Apr 2012 #72

Here are a few that are speaking: the corrupt potentates in SA & Qatar call to arm Syria's rebels. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #105

We are talking about Arab countries here that are under the rule of their Cleita Apr 2012 #61

But Syrians are supposed to be "like us"? Why do Qatar and SA get a pass when Syria doesn't? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #69

I addressed this in my other post. It's cultural and Qatar is passing laws to take care of Cleita Apr 2012 #79

"It's cultural". I'll remember that. "Qatar is passing laws." That too. Does that apply to every HiPointDem Apr 2012 #88

Human rights violations in Qatar HiPointDem Apr 2012 #67

Filipino women in UAE jailed for consensual sex HiPointDem Apr 2012 #70

Children of jailed women in Dubai live in prison HiPointDem Apr 2012 #73

Qatar: Camel jockeys = kidnapped children HiPointDem Apr 2012 #74

Qatar: slave-labor state, a nightmare for migrant workers HiPointDem Apr 2012 #77

Al Jazeera Journalist Sacked and Deported from Qatar Due to HIV-positive Status HiPointDem Apr 2012 #78

This is old news. They use robots now. Cleita Apr 2012 #83

Is 2010 "new" enough for you? "Despite Ban, Child Camel Jockeys Are Still Racing" HiPointDem Apr 2012 #86

And this has what to do with the Al Jazeera news? Cleita Apr 2012 #89

The article is about Dubai, run by the Al-Maktoum family since 1833, also creatures of the British. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #93

The ban which came from the United Nations applied to all the ME countries that used child Cleita Apr 2012 #95

Did Al-Jazeera report on labor violations inside Qatar? Has it ever? I can't find it. What does a HiPointDem Apr 2012 #96

The English version doesn't report much about Qatar, but that's probably Cleita Apr 2012 #97

LOL. China is also "local stuff". So are Egypt, Syria, Russia, Bahrain, Norway and other locales HiPointDem Apr 2012 #99

Well, I gotta say buh bye. Cleita Apr 2012 #103

How many times is that now that you've called me 'ignorant' and otherwise attacked me personally? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #104

Saying Assad must go validates the US mercenaries currently operating in Syria. sad sally Apr 2012 #46

According to John Adams, those were roughly the same ratios Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #115

Who pimps a dictator like Assad on a progressive website? Nt geek tragedy Apr 2012 #18

The internets must be back up again in Damascus :) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #20

While I've never quite seen anybody here overtly pimping dictators like Qadaffi and Assad RZM Apr 2012 #33

Who is this Bashir Assad??? center rising Apr 2012 #22

Thank you for bringing rare unity to DU jberryhill Apr 2012 #23

Reread the thread...the guy's got support....nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #39

Assad, is that you? Beacool Apr 2012 #25

ahem.. just where have YOU been young lady? gallavanting around, i am sure... dionysus Apr 2012 #45

An Easter banky!!!!!!!! Beacool Apr 2012 #106

The place is crazy because one dude posted a fringe opinion and is getting pounded for it? Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2012 #51

Nope, it's always been nutty. Beacool Apr 2012 #107

That is just an example of wishful thinking on her part. And an example of party-line Fool Count Apr 2012 #26

Do you honestly believe leftynyc Apr 2012 #63

It's an ambitious politician trying on her tough guy cowboy hat for 2016. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #27

A person with a moral center, speaking in her official capacity as SECSTATE of the USA, voicing the MADem Apr 2012 #29

Hit, meet run onenote Apr 2012 #35

"the rebels that are perpetuating atrocities against the people of Syria." Kaleva Apr 2012 #36

This place cracks me up lately. WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #37

it ain't your father's DU anymore will.... dionysus Apr 2012 #43

A lot of people in Syria are saying exactly that... LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #40

ROFL ... "the rebels that are perpetuating atrocities against the people of Syria." dionysus Apr 2012 #42

By splattering them with their blood, I suppose. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #54

"Syria rebels committed serious abuses, Human Rights Watch says" Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #110

hey honey, go peddle your support for that murderous fuckwad dictator somewhere else. cali Apr 2012 #47

+1 Little Star Apr 2012 #91

Who is she? She's the Secretary of State. You're welcome. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #56

Agreed. The Syrian people should manage their affairs and The Northerner Apr 2012 #57

Clown Car HangOnKids Apr 2012 #65

Is there something wrong with respecting a foreign country's sovereignty? The Northerner Apr 2012 #66

She's Pres Obama's Secretary of State leftynyc Apr 2012 #59

A free human being. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #62

When did that ever matter to the imperialists? n/t malaise Apr 2012 #71

Obama's employee, speaking for him Autumn Apr 2012 #92

She's not Obama's "employee". Beacool Apr 2012 #108

I'm guessing you probably threw in less than a cent of your tax dollars to pay her salary... Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #111

It's worth the same as everyone else's on this board. Beacool Apr 2012 #112

I'm not demanding Hillary, or Barack for that matter, speak for me. Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #113

Well, that's your opinion and I have mine. Beacool Apr 2012 #114

She's Plenipotentiary High Commissioner for Implementing Regime Change when we say so? FarCenter Apr 2012 #101

Let's see if you still think that Assad should stay in power after reading this. Beacool Apr 2012 #109

the US sounds pretty ridiculous on the issue as it maintains brutal occupations in afghanistan and KG Apr 2012 #116

Another hit and run poster lunatica Apr 2012 #117