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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
23. no some people accept that the world is never gonna be perfect
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:26 AM
Apr 2012

and strive for small improvements which are more realistic, instead of expecting sunshine every day, even in Minnesota (which you well know is not gonna happen).

As for those concepts of privilege, I think they are kinda stupid. Perhaps partly because I am a straight white male, but also because there is a basic contradiction between

1. white people are privileged because they can walk at night without being seen as suspicious characters
and
2. everybody should be able to walk at night without being seen as suspicious characters.

That does not fit the definition of privilege. A privilege is a "special benefit".

Let me try an example or two. Let's say that my dad is President of the School Board (which it happens that he was for a time while I went to school) and because of that, I get a free school lunch every day. That would be a privilege. However, if the advantage went in the reverse, you would not call it a privilege. Suppose, instead of a free lunch, I was getting my lunch money stolen every day by a bully who threatened to beat me up if I did not comply. Would I then be able to say to all the other students who were not getting robbed that they had a "sansbully privilege"? Wouldn't it be quite ridiculous to call "not getting robbed" a privilege?

I think it would be.

Take it further though. Suppose I am one of two black kids at school and we were both being targetted by a racist bully because of the color of our skin.

Would it now make sense to say that the white students were privileged?

Nope, I still do not buy it. You can say that the kids being bullied have an unfair disadvantage, but that does not translate into an unfair advantage for all those not so handicapped. Further, telling them they have a privilege is NOT conducive to getting their help to rectify any problems. That's two strikes, and it becomes a third strike when you realize that there are variations in the categories, where I have supposed straight white male privilege as I clean toilets and Ellen DeGeneres doesn't have such privileges in her rich and famous life. Now suddenly the kid getting bullied is privileged over the one getting free lunches?

Nope, if ten years of cleaning toilets have taught me anything, it is that I know excrement when I see it. The notion of white privilege and male privilege and straight privilege need to be wrapped in toilet paper and flushed into the sewer of bad ideas even if they are liberal shibboleths.

I'm the opposite...afraid to walk in my neighborhood after 7pm. dkf Apr 2012 #1
Why are you living in a constant state of fear? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #6
Well that's what it is to live in the heart of the city. dkf Apr 2012 #7
"I'm thinking of taking self defense classes"... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #16
Yes and I think most classes teach that it's best to.... Kaleva Apr 2012 #26
yes, they do... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #28
And I think your suggestion is a good idea because of that. Kaleva Apr 2012 #29
+1. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #30
I'm a 5'11" large male and I won't walk in my neighborhood past dark. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #18
I also have insomnia and often walk around San Francisco in the wee Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #2
Try it in Oakland. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #17
There are some parts of San Francisco that I wouldn't walk around alone at night... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #19
My experience has been the exact opposite in my time. I use the night to hide. Selatius Apr 2012 #3
On the other hand... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #20
I see dogs..... nt nanabugg Apr 2012 #4
Back in about 1973 I was stopped "for walking" in Florida... TreasonousBastard Apr 2012 #5
Ha! I need to remember that SCantiGOP Apr 2012 #8
you are asking for a perfect world hfojvt Apr 2012 #9
Of course I am asking for a perfect world - isn't that what we all want? nadine_mn Apr 2012 #12
no some people accept that the world is never gonna be perfect hfojvt Apr 2012 #23
Just don't carry a box of Skittles and wear a hoodie and you will be fine jpak Apr 2012 #10
if Trayvon had had a nice big dog with him Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #11
pretty sure Zimmerman would have shot the dog too nadine_mn Apr 2012 #13
but might not have been so quick to approach Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #14
Sad, but true, Nadine. But I worry about you. That school teacher that was recently murdered... Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #15
wrong place at the wrong time Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #21
As a woman, I wouldn't be that comfortable taking a walk alone at 2 AM. Beacool Apr 2012 #22
I love the late night hours when no one is around. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #24
Well, it's true Turbineguy Apr 2012 #25
eloquently put florida08 Apr 2012 #27
Amazing post. Needs more rec's! joshcryer Apr 2012 #31
I very often walk in the middle of the night Skittles Apr 2012 #32
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