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In reply to the discussion: WaPo: U.S. Officials Scrambled to Nab Snowden ("Decision to Force a Foreign Leader’s Plane to Land") [View all]struggle4progress
(126,644 posts)Arming progressives with actual information, that helps them analyze and understand the world in order to win fights, is one thing
Amusing oneself, by spouting bullshizz, is quite a different thing: IMO that objectively supports the status quo by denying people the opportunity to think clearly and accurately
There's nothing wrong with a bit of healthy cynicism or healthy paranoia about the state of the world or about how large institutions functions. If one's cynicism and paranoia are tempered by an insistence on actual facts, and can be put to use to help people think accurately about what strategies might help us work towards our goals, then a bit of cynicism and paranoia might actually be helpful. But cynicism and paranoia alone won't move us forward, and they can become a lazy substitute for the hard work of trying to change anything
If you want to amuse yourself by bullshizzing, you're certainly free to do so, but then IMO you're not a progressive in any objective sense: you're just engaged in some silly pointless mind-ferking
Latin Americans have good reason, based on examples going back over many years, to distrust the US. There's no question that GWB attempted to overthrow Chavez and actually deposed Aristide. I've been convinced for years that GHWB invaded Panama because Noriega had been a CIA-asset, knew about drug-dealing associated with Reagan's contras, and had (in a manner of speaking) wandered off the plantation. Reagan's proxy wars in Guatemala, Nicaragua, and El Salvador were shameful affairs; and the history goes back years before that, including the Nixon-sponsored coup against Allende and more. And, unfortunately, Latin Americans can expect more of the same, the next time the US has another rightwing government, because we on the left here in the US really haven't had our act together for years and years
You can sit back and engage in adolescent snickering, popcorn in hand, if you like, or sneer about a map somebody or other posted a year ago, or chuckle how hilarious you think my post #31 seems to you -- but all I did was point out that the link Greg Miller gave, to support his statement, didn't actually support his statement