If you blame Barack Obama for Iraq, you're completely removed from reality. [View all]

[Drunken Irishman]

It's that simple. Obama didn't support the Iraq War, Obama ended the Iraq War and Obama has absolutely no blood on his hands when it comes to the Iraq War. It's Bush-Cheney-Wolfowitz's war and the revisionist history the media is pushing, at the behest of the Republicans, is the most astonishing whitewashing we've seen in a very long time.

If only we had a media willing to call the Republicans on their shit instead of giving them an opportunity to spout their lies. This is what they want - they wanted Iraq to collapse after Bush left office so they could blame his successor. It's no different with the economy. They hoped, and prayed, the economy would dip into a depression during Obama's presidency so they could blame him too. Beyond that, though, their hope was to absolve Bush of all his sins. Am I the only one who remembers the 4,000-plus dead? The bloodiest months throughout 2006 and 2007? The lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction? The lies about being greeted as liberators? The lack of any exit plan? Not only was the Iraq War one of the most incompetent policy decisions in American history - it was also one of the most incompetently run wars in American history. We underestimated the enemy, lost the battle and tried to save face with a surge, mind you, that Barack Obama opposed. The surge only helped mask the issues facing the country.

Now, to quote Rev. Wright, America's chickens are coming home to roost.

Anyone surprised?

But to blame Barack Obama? Give me a break! What a lousy, cheap and idiotic argument.

Blame the Bushes - both H.W. Bush and W. Blame the neocons. Blame the Republicans. Hell, even blame the Democrats who championed for the war. But let's be clear: the mess in Iraq is not a result of the U.S. ending the war prematurely - it's that we went to war in the first place. What these warmongering assholes don't get is that this mess was baked into the cake the second we invaded. It didn't matter whether we removed troops in 2011, 2021 or 2031 - it was going to follow us through to the end because we broke a country and opened it up to a blanket of terrorism.

What John McCain is advocating is for a complete occupation of a nation we weren't, even according to the Republicans in 2003, supposed to ever occupy. Alas, no one remembers that. Of course, the war, to them anyway, was supposed to be quick. Saddam would fall, we'd be greeted as liberators and heroes and Bush would go down in history as one of the greatest presidents in American history. The disillusioned right overestimated America's ability and underestimated the foe's. It's proven dire and not all surprising.

The same thing happened in 1991. The only difference is that Bush 41 didn't go all the way. But the idea was that the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq would ultimately lead to uprisings and the overthrowing of Saddam. That was the ultimate goal - a supposed internal natural uprising from the Iraqi people. It never materialized.

History repeats itself.

Like I said, this was all baked into the cake the second Bush announced the start of the Iraq War.

Obama is about as guilty for this as he is Hitler's march through Europe.

Bush failed America. Bush failed Iraq. He promised freedom and hope for both nations and left office leaving both in far worse shape than when he entered.

That is fact.

That has nothing to do with Obama.

Anyone who thinks this is Obama's War, or Obama's Fault, is only doing so to deflect the blame from Bush. Bush is responsible and should be shamed for his ineptness and lies.