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In reply to the discussion: In aid of memory: Roll Call of the 2002 Senate vote on the IWR. [View all]George II
(67,782 posts)40. Here are a few VERY important excerpts from the document for which they voted:
SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS.
The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--
(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and
(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements-
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
The fact is that bush LIED to Congress and the United Nations in order to proceed with his unwarranted invasion of Iraq. At the time of the invasion, Iraq DID comply with the Security Council resolutions, most importantly they destroyed their Weapons of Mass Destruction. If bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Wolfowitz hadn't blatantly lied to Congress and the United Nations, under this act bush could NOT have "gone to war". It wasn't a vote for bush's war, it was a document that specifically stated under what conditions he could go to war. Unfortunately those conditions didn't exist and the war was essentially illegal, even with this legislation.
The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--
(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and
(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements-
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
The fact is that bush LIED to Congress and the United Nations in order to proceed with his unwarranted invasion of Iraq. At the time of the invasion, Iraq DID comply with the Security Council resolutions, most importantly they destroyed their Weapons of Mass Destruction. If bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Wolfowitz hadn't blatantly lied to Congress and the United Nations, under this act bush could NOT have "gone to war". It wasn't a vote for bush's war, it was a document that specifically stated under what conditions he could go to war. Unfortunately those conditions didn't exist and the war was essentially illegal, even with this legislation.
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I could not remember when Feingold was sent packing....I thought it was more 2006.
yeoman6987
Jun 2014
#5
Thanks. I get so sick of that false narrative being parroted ad infinitum.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#52
"Still shocking to see how many D's voted yes." Yup, 29 of 'em. I think it's shameful.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#7
They based their vote on political calculus, as opposed to doing what was right.
scarletwoman
Jun 2014
#23
It would be informative if you posted the text of the bill on which they were voting.
George II
Jun 2014
#24
Here are a few VERY important excerpts from the document for which they voted:
George II
Jun 2014
#40
That's a subjective paraphrase, that's NOT what they were voting for/against.
George II
Jun 2014
#30
Don't you know the text by now? I remember, we almost knew it by heart at the time. And
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#46
I'm very familiar with the wording, but unfortunately the majority of people who discuss....
George II
Jun 2014
#48
Bush lied BEFORE the AUMF which is why people knew, well WE knew, that to give a liar and war
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#49
the vote was MADE POLITICAL. it was right before an election and not long after 9/11 + war hoopla.
pansypoo53219
Jun 2014
#38
cornered? Oh no they weren't. They all had a choice. It may have been a hard choice, but
cali
Jun 2014
#39