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George II

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40. Here are a few VERY important excerpts from the document for which they voted:
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:09 AM
Jun 2014
SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS.

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and
(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements-
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.


The fact is that bush LIED to Congress and the United Nations in order to proceed with his unwarranted invasion of Iraq. At the time of the invasion, Iraq DID comply with the Security Council resolutions, most importantly they destroyed their Weapons of Mass Destruction. If bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Wolfowitz hadn't blatantly lied to Congress and the United Nations, under this act bush could NOT have "gone to war". It wasn't a vote for bush's war, it was a document that specifically stated under what conditions he could go to war. Unfortunately those conditions didn't exist and the war was essentially illegal, even with this legislation.

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Amazing how many Democratic candidates have left yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #1
Feingold's loss had nothing to do with his vote(which was a no) JI7 Jun 2014 #3
I could not remember when Feingold was sent packing....I thought it was more 2006. yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #5
no, his loss was in 2010 JI7 Jun 2014 #8
It was the same Wisconsin swing to the right which saved Scott Walker's ass. Loudly Jun 2014 #11
Russ Feingold won reelection to the Senate in '04 by ~10 points fujiyama Jun 2014 #16
Stunningly Disgusting billhicks76 Jun 2014 #20
Feingold won re-election. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #29
I wasn't going to say it. n/t mattclearing Jun 2014 #50
Feingold lost because the "left" threw moderates under the bus. joshcryer Jun 2014 #36
Apologies for the billionaires, I see. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #51
Thanks. I get so sick of that false narrative being parroted ad infinitum. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #52
Of course we voted, we didn't *get out the vote.* joshcryer Jun 2014 #54
+1 Enthusiast Jun 2014 #56
GOTV was 9 points below 2006. joshcryer Jun 2014 #53
Thanks for posting. JEB Jun 2014 #2
"Still shocking to see how many D's voted yes." Yup, 29 of 'em. I think it's shameful. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #7
And I STILL have no use for the D's that voted Yes. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #4
This is the kind of informative post I used to love this place for Jeff Rosenzweig Jun 2014 #6
That's very kind of you. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #9
So glad to see you here, Jeff. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #15
well said jeff. DesertFlower Jun 2014 #34
Welcome back. you gonna do the Duzys again? Autumn Jun 2014 #55
As a Michigander, one of my proudest moments catbyte Jun 2014 #10
I'm with you. My two Minnesota senators also voted NO. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #12
And Wellstone was being told a "No" vote would kill his reelection chances dflprincess Jun 2014 #21
I still can't quite come to grips with losing him in that plane crash. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #22
I'm there with you dflprincess Jun 2014 #59
Yes, this was a good reminder fujiyama Jun 2014 #18
a remarkable list in so many ways..... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2014 #13
Joseph Biden (D): Yes; John Kerry (D): Yes; Hillary Clinton (D): Yes flvegan Jun 2014 #14
That is so disappointing. Even *I* knew that it would be a catbyte Jun 2014 #17
They DID know. How could they not? They also knew $$$$$$ was in it. nt valerief Jun 2014 #25
I'm sorry, but I don't buy that Biden, Clinton & Kerry are that evil. catbyte Jun 2014 #32
Either for money or to not get dead. It's usually one or the other. nt valerief Jun 2014 #44
Wellstone voted 'no'. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #45
Just waiting for the inevitable - "But damn it, they didn't know!" response quinnox Jun 2014 #19
They based their vote on political calculus, as opposed to doing what was right. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #23
It would be informative if you posted the text of the bill on which they were voting. George II Jun 2014 #24
Here's a link: scarletwoman Jun 2014 #26
Here are a few VERY important excerpts from the document for which they voted: George II Jun 2014 #40
Well, somehow 22 Senators managed to see through the lies and voted 'no'. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #41
Most of the lies started AFTER the AUMF was passed. George II Jun 2014 #42
President Bush's Iraq resolution. elleng Jun 2014 #27
That's a subjective paraphrase, that's NOT what they were voting for/against. George II Jun 2014 #30
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:5:./temp/~c107evLJOD:: elleng Jun 2014 #31
Here you go... Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #37
Don't you know the text by now? I remember, we almost knew it by heart at the time. And sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #46
I'm very familiar with the wording, but unfortunately the majority of people who discuss.... George II Jun 2014 #48
Bush lied BEFORE the AUMF which is why people knew, well WE knew, that to give a liar and war sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #49
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #57
I will add my absolute disgust for ANYONE who voted for Duyba Skittles Jun 2014 #28
if hilllary runs it might come back to DesertFlower Jun 2014 #33
The mess WILL escalate, guaranteed. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #35
the vote was MADE POLITICAL. it was right before an election and not long after 9/11 + war hoopla. pansypoo53219 Jun 2014 #38
cornered? Oh no they weren't. They all had a choice. It may have been a hard choice, but cali Jun 2014 #39
It didn't hurt Feingold or many of the others, Sen. Byrd eg. to do what was right. So how was sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #47
Down memory lane with Robert Byrd malaise Jun 2014 #43
K&R nt Zorra Jun 2014 #58
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