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boston bean

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19. There is that too. But how we as a society treat this as neglect

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:12 PM

Jun 2014

and a law enforcement matter says a lot about who we are as a country.

A woman killing herself to have basic necessities should not have to go through investigations with the fear of her children being ripped away from her. Neither should any man.

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A woman working the overnight shift to earn money [View all] boston bean Jun 2014 OP

I'm curious. Why did you start another thread about this? MineralMan Jun 2014 #1

Why do you start threads? Your answer would probably be the same I would give. boston bean Jun 2014 #2

I posted to you because I was curious. MineralMan Jun 2014 #6

Police your own threads, please don't police mine. boston bean Jun 2014 #9

One of the wonderful things about DU is that all MineralMan Jun 2014 #14

One of the wonderful things about DU is that all can post on DU boston bean Jun 2014 #16

Are you sure? I guess you better check in first with MM from now on. Rex Jun 2014 #27

I know, then he accuses me of trying to control his posting habits. boston bean Jun 2014 #30

Apparently, we all need to check in first with MM before posting in GD. raccoon Jun 2014 #109

Sure. It's fine. But my question remains. You will post whatever you like. MineralMan Jun 2014 #38

Your question doesn't remain. As I said above, it would be the same boston bean Jun 2014 #44

I completely agree with your OP. FarPoint Jun 2014 #85

What doesn't make sense? That someone wants to talk about it further? Rex Jun 2014 #25

Clearly, you cannot answer my question. MineralMan Jun 2014 #37

depends on what is happening to the child while the woman is away working doesn't it nt msongs Jun 2014 #3

Poor people shouldn't have babies? That would solve it all, wouldn't it? boston bean Jun 2014 #8

You really think social services are the child-snatching Gestapo, don't you? moriah Jun 2014 #40

None of the above. I think the way we treat the poor like criminals boston bean Jun 2014 #45

Social services intervention is not supposed to be adversarial. moriah Jun 2014 #48

Our society should be helping not holding your children over the heads of parents boston bean Jun 2014 #50

Adequate supervision is a basic necessity. moriah Jun 2014 #53

What a terrible mother she was! boston bean Jun 2014 #54

Again with the Gestapo child-snatching rhetoric. moriah Jun 2014 #56

I wonder why passiveporcupine Jun 2014 #76

that's what they are suppose to do 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #81

I guess the b-word is acceptable pintobean Jun 2014 #88

what? 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #89

How about now? pintobean Jun 2014 #95

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #91

Perhaps the children are 840high Jun 2014 #46

Again with this? Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2014 #4

Leaving children unattended who are too young to care for themselves IS neglect Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #5

Exactly. Neglect stemming from good intent is still neglect Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #28

Well put. I'm not sure why so many are struggling with comprehending this. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #29

I think people are struggling with how black and white this is to some elias7 Jun 2014 #108

Slow weekend? nt Union Scribe Jun 2014 #7

You can't leave a young child in the care of another young child Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #10

If leaving a 10 yr old to care for a younger child is ok aikoaiko Jun 2014 #11

I am re-posting my replies i posted the other "threads" in this vein etherealtruth Jun 2014 #12

Thank you. I think my point has flown over most persons head in this thread. boston bean Jun 2014 #13

can i hook up on your post and say ya... all this. seabeyond Jun 2014 #17

No one appears interested in discussing this aspect of the "problem" etherealtruth Jun 2014 #20

Much more fun to speculate about the poor mother. Rex Jun 2014 #22

This woman did not leave her children unattended overnight. boston bean Jun 2014 #47

Yes it does, the dishonesty is really telling here. Rex Jun 2014 #55

The story's changed so many times, it's difficult to believe any of it. smokey nj Jun 2014 #63

^THIS Jamastiene Jun 2014 #92

i have a niece. who has two little ones. she is working from this place. while seabeyond Jun 2014 #23

Sorry, but "I am poor" doesn't excuse neglect Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #32

In the context of my posts and this thread your response makes little sense etherealtruth Jun 2014 #36

Of course being poor doesn't excuse neglect. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #70

Unfortunately, you are asking serious questions that should be answered, but... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #74

That's why I didn't comment on specifics of the situation etherealtruth Jun 2014 #78

well said, thank you n/t riverwalker Jun 2014 #15

I don't think we should damn anyone based on a one-sided and inconsistent account posted on an smokey nj Jun 2014 #18

There is that too. But how we as a society treat this as neglect boston bean Jun 2014 #19

Did you see this OP? Autumn Jun 2014 #51

That is what I said from the very beginning. We have one side of the story Rex Jun 2014 #24

Not just this site...her garbage pat on the back..but they wont let me be alone with the 5 year old Drew Richards Jun 2014 #58

And yet in another reply, she is loved by the mom and the kids! Rex Jun 2014 #61

Yeah that is highly questionable...more like they are freaked out by her... Drew Richards Jun 2014 #62

Yeah she is giving out strange vibes, because she wants to be accepted Rex Jun 2014 #64

just to control, I think 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #71

Young children left alone overnight ought to be checked into. Kaleva Jun 2014 #21

neglect is neglect TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #26

There are lot of resources for single mothers Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #31

Sometimes a parent's best is not good enough. That's when the system *should* be stepping in. moriah Jun 2014 #33

Well said Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #35

I know this will shock some but ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #34

Kinda sick that folk can be and are .... etherealtruth Jun 2014 #39

I remember a local female anchor showing utter CONTEMPT for parents of "latchkey kids"... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #41

I was surprised to see so many of DU's preachers declare that business is business Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #42

Single parents often have to make accomodations that MineralMan Jun 2014 #43

I am confused...it seems like the most important aspect of raising a child is food, shelter and Tikki Jun 2014 #49

What if the children are four years old and three months old? FBaggins Jun 2014 #52

Ok what if they are .... etherealtruth Jun 2014 #57

Society has obligations here... FBaggins Jun 2014 #59

Suggesting it's not neglect, and therefore should not be reported to the proper authorities.... moriah Jun 2014 #60

Find a post where I have said that ... etherealtruth Jun 2014 #66

I'm hostile to people suggesting neglect isn't neglect just because the mom is sympathetic. moriah Jun 2014 #96

That is not what most have taken from the OP etherealtruth Jun 2014 #100

Maybe not adequate, but it's more help than they were getting before. moriah Jun 2014 #103

Personally, after 20 years as an MSW, I've almost given up caring what people think DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #69

You can't win as a social worker etherealtruth Jun 2014 #75

"Do you really believe that you are provided adequate staffing and funding to provide the services" DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #79

I think people were actually doubting the motives of the OP that stared this etherealtruth Jun 2014 #84

I'll play hypothetical, sure. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #105

Thanks ... this is very consistent with what I hear from friends etherealtruth Jun 2014 #106

You're supposed to call the cops when children under the age of 12 are left home alone. rocktivity Jun 2014 #65

You do know that is not true, correct? etherealtruth Jun 2014 #68

Some information, as requested. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #72

Thank you, that certainly disproves the post etherealtruth Jun 2014 #80

Law in regards to Illinois Kaleva Jun 2014 #94

Again thanks ... it disputes the post that authorities must be called everytime a child under 12 etherealtruth Jun 2014 #97

It also suggests that leaving them overnight (8 hours) is a criminal offense. moriah Jun 2014 #99

In Maryland that would be 8 years old. etherealtruth Jun 2014 #101

Yes, it's up to the authorities to make that determination on a case by case basis. Kaleva Jun 2014 #104

I saw that too.... moriah Jun 2014 #98

It certainly was true when I grew up in New York City. rocktivity Jun 2014 #77

This night versus day supervision has always confused me. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #67

Concur. edgineered Jun 2014 #73

I have always been a night owl. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #93

I dunno quakerboy Jun 2014 #107

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #82

Errr... It's Ms. Bean BTW Texasgal Jun 2014 #86

Are you aware your post is rife with xenophobia? etherealtruth Jun 2014 #87

USA! USA! USA! Tree-Hugger Jun 2014 #90

There was a huge scandal in Boston in the 80s Warpy Jun 2014 #83

I agree with your post.... chillfactor Jun 2014 #102