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47. associated with the fellowship, okay

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 06:27 PM

Jun 2014

. . . in what do you believe that relationship with the praying legislators manifested itself in Hillary Clinton's political or personal behavior?

The most I'm getting from your screed is that she prayed with republicans and you're stoked about it. I think you're trying to impart a view of this as something dark and sinister. Secret prayers . . . what's next? Meetings in catacombs under the Capitol?

This is slippery and suggestive politics which isn't a new tale but one that is used to evoke a response to something not evident or likely even existent.

Are you aware that what you're doing here with this is how religion has been used in politics over the history of our government to cast aspersions and suspicion on rivals? It's as old as politics itself, in fact.

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Bible Is Biggest Influence on My Thinking, Says Hillary Clinton [View all] cali Jun 2014 OP

You Can Find Anything You Want In The Bible, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2014 #1

And, far too often, more the latter than the former:. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #21

And...there are many good life lessons in the Bible and in other great books. kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #155

But as a Methodist, she should be far more actively working for social justice and not JDPriestly Jun 2014 #184

And you can get anything you want Flying Squirrel Jun 2014 #162

Traditionally, Methodists are social reformers. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #183

Jesus Christ! Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #2

So embarrassing. reformist2 Jun 2014 #3

This stuff has always made me nervous, Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #4

She was part of The Fellowship in DC, alsame Jun 2014 #17

I seem to recall her Methodism was discussed during Bill's first prez campaign Hekate Jun 2014 #96

Warren has like a childhood bible from third grade bigtree Jun 2014 #111

It's not her Methodism that makes us queasy. It's her long association with Nay Jun 2014 #115

they hold dogfights? bigtree Jun 2014 #116

Oh, for heaven's sake. Grow up. nt Nay Jun 2014 #118

you grow up. You're the one with all of the conspiracy talk bigtree Jun 2014 #160

I guess by all the fake outrage everyone here must be an atheist. Beacool Jun 2014 #167

I hear she also kicks puppies when no one's looking BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #5

I suspect she does. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #95

it's politics, and part of her setting up her response when the whole Bill Cheating thing comes up JI7 Jun 2014 #6

Well, that's it for me. I'll still vote for her if she the nominee but, I have NO faith in any ladjf Jun 2014 #7

Me, too! Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #35

Why? My lifelong FDR Democrat voting Grandmother and Grandfather were Church going folk their VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #38

Nobody is suggesting that. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #137

who decided she was a Dominionist? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #144

Have you read the book? Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #147

Have you? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #148

Yes. A few years ago. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #149

we are discussing the latest one... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #150

Sharlet has a new book? Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #153

... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #161

When you get done with the self-abuse, check this OP by madfloridian. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #199

" following Biblical law to make political and social decisions effecting us all. " alp227 Jun 2014 #91

Does Keith Ellison consider the Koran to be the "biggest Influence on (his) Thinking"? n/t Gore1FL Jun 2014 #135

Would that include the REVEREND Martin Luther King Jr.? KinMd Jun 2014 #180

Pander, pander Sanity Claws Jun 2014 #8

Seriously, Hillary has to be the most tone deaf candidate, since, well the last time she ran. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #79

So is it you are thinking this is positive or a negative? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #9

seriously? cali Jun 2014 #12

I get it you do not like Hillary, my question was it a negative or positive she reads the bible? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #16

Are you honestly serious? oh wait. nevermind you think it's a good thing.. 2banon Jun 2014 #36

good answer Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #78

Positive think Jun 2014 #34

This is exactly what my grandparents would tell you guided their lives...."The Red Letters" VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #41

Was that good or bad? think Jun 2014 #48

they were loyal Democrats....My grandfather after serving overseas...joined the CCC's VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #56

That's awesome. think Jun 2014 #67

Your welcome! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #68

Yeah, believing in hoky poky fairy tales is a great presidential qualification. 2banon Jun 2014 #46

Oh, no - LiberalElite Jun 2014 #10

here we go again Doctor_J Jun 2014 #11

No doubt. LAGC Jun 2014 #69

Do you not think Christianity has become a de facto litmus test for high profile public office? alp227 Jun 2014 #92

"Has become" implies temporary311 Jun 2014 #109

D'oh! Brain fart on my part. nt alp227 Jun 2014 #110

Is that why she contradicts herself so often? Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #13

Heh. Good one. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #65

Yeah. When people say "I believe in the literal Genesis account of creation", I go Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #90

Yeah shes not running yet...next shes gonna tell us she almost joined a convent till she met Drew Richards Jun 2014 #14

Remember the sniper fire Politicalboi Jun 2014 #49

Thewr are no atheists on foxholes elehhhhna Jun 2014 #114

here's an old article: Elizabeth Warren Cites Matthew 25 Bible Passage in DNC Speech bigtree Jun 2014 #15

and was Senator Warren ever closely associated with the uber conservative nutwads of cali Jun 2014 #18

Warren was a registered Republican from 91-96 BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #20

she wouldn't say if she voted for Reagan or not ( probably means she did) OKNancy Jun 2014 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #61

very true OKNancy Jun 2014 #73

economically, definitely. Other issues? wyldwolf Jun 2014 #97

I've never been a Republican in any way, shape or form. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #28

Being a registered Republican is worse than MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #157

It's not even close, because being a Republican was Warren's idea BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #159

conspiracy hogwash bigtree Jun 2014 #22

I've provided evidence that she was associated with The Fellowship. YOU cali Jun 2014 #24

That Is Old News, Ma'am: The Question Is, What Meaning Can Accurately Be Ascribed To It? The Magistrate Jun 2014 #31

associated with the fellowship, okay bigtree Jun 2014 #47

I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with the OP Doctor_J Jun 2014 #112

That was an interesting post, but what is your point? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #142

it's a politician that is popular evoking her religious beliefs bigtree Jun 2014 #158

Methodists take pride in good works and humanitarian activities OKNancy Jun 2014 #19

I don't care what you are. that's your business. cali Jun 2014 #26

How long do you think you would last on DU if you said... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #51

I'd be a liar in that case, and that I am not. cali Jun 2014 #119

Yeah and then you are going to vote for her right? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #120

No. And if she's the nominee, I will take a hiatus from DU cali Jun 2014 #124

and what will you do if she becomes President? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #125

um, nope not an ideologue. If I were I would hardly be defending Obama on Iraq cali Jun 2014 #126

who would YOU call the ideologue from the Left? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #127

Chris Hedges, for one- someone I don't have much use for because of that. cali Jun 2014 #130

and we both know better...IF she wins you will come here to do exactly what you are doing now.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #129

you "think" you know. Of course you do not. cali Jun 2014 #132

from this reaction....I can tell I was spot on! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #134

lol. wrong again, 'nilla. I am a democrat as well. cali Jun 2014 #138

then what is YOUR definition of ideologue? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #141

I already gave you an example. cali Jun 2014 #152

your example is not the definition....:-)words matter "ca" VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #189

I don't think you know what ideologue means. cui bono Jun 2014 #178

....oh really? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #190

+1 cui bono Jun 2014 #177

minus one for not knowing the definition of ideologue. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #191

What? One is true the other is not. You are making no case what so ever for whatever your point is. cui bono Jun 2014 #176

don't bust an aneurysm in the mean time OKNancy Jun 2014 #54

oh I won't. I'm sure you'll be thrilled to hear cali Jun 2014 #121

Hatred destroys rational thinking. lumpy Jun 2014 #64

I don't hate her. She may be a delightful person. I reject her politics. cali Jun 2014 #122

then why so vitriolic? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #192

George W Bush is a Methodist T Roosevelt Jun 2014 #37

GW is a Republican. OKNancy Jun 2014 #55

So your implication is T Roosevelt Jun 2014 #70

Yes lumpy Jun 2014 #62

Not only is she a Methodist, bmbmd Jun 2014 #106

This place is getting ridiculous. Beacool Jun 2014 #164

The next President knows how to play the game BootinUp Jun 2014 #25

hey, I know. let's just have a coronation. Hilly is destined to be President. She deserves it. cali Jun 2014 #27

Its a prediction based on years of observation, you know what you BootinUp Jun 2014 #30

no, do tell what I can do with my "snark". cali Jun 2014 #32

My keen eye notes that 3 of the last 8 Presidents BootinUp Jun 2014 #53

How many failed candidates have not gone on to win the Presidency upon a second bid? morningfog Jun 2014 #143

Who were the 2 other than Nixon? morningfog Jun 2014 #145

Reagan and Bush 1. BootinUp Jun 2014 #188

Good, finally a sane christian in politics. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #29

Yes, yes. We must have politicians blathering about how the bible is their greatest political cali Jun 2014 #33

wake me when this fucking nightmare is over. I'm so done with this religious pandering bs. 2banon Jun 2014 #42

It is a fairly progressive manifesto. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #52

+1 BootinUp Jun 2014 #60

The Bible as a ventriloquist dummy. longship Jun 2014 #39

Puke bigwillq Jun 2014 #40

She is recruiting PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #43

That's unfortunate. alarimer Jun 2014 #44

Fake fake fake LittleBlue Jun 2014 #45

The woman rebrands herself more than Madonna. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #50

It's just a variation on a theme. Fill in the blank: "I won't be out-____ed by the opposition." WinkyDink Jun 2014 #57

It is not the Bible that worries me - it is the Fellowship group she prays with. I want nothing to jwirr Jun 2014 #58

She has a very low opinion of the intelligence tularetom Jun 2014 #59

+1 InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #80

Those Clintons sure have a lot of gall. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #151

Agreeing with cali, edgineered Jun 2014 #63

I've seen many politicians say that the Bible is an important influence in their lives. ... spin Jun 2014 #66

The fact that she chose The Fellowship to worship with is the problem.... Nay Jun 2014 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Jun 2014 #71

Yeah, the Bible's been a big influence on me, too. LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #72

Now it's certain she's running Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2014 #74

Rick Santorum said the same thing. I don't want him to be President either. Scuba Jun 2014 #75

^^^ ding ding ding ^^^ mike_c Jun 2014 #202

It's like she's making a case to NOT vote for her 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #76

Hehe Caretha Jun 2014 #101

I actually expected to see a reference to Reagan's autobiography, too deutsey Jun 2014 #194

The political machine is warming up for a run around the block! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #77

yeah let's get the Bible thumpers out of politics dsc Jun 2014 #81

MLK was an elected politician? News to me. In fact, he wasn't a politician at all cali Jun 2014 #82

He is leading the Moral Monday protests in North Carolina dsc Jun 2014 #85

*cough*cough*...Yeah, okay. Iggo Jun 2014 #83

I just threw up in my mouth little .... Myrina Jun 2014 #84

Did Hillary add "This message brought to you by 'The Family'"? bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #86

I won't dictate anyone's sources of inspiration. If this is what she takes from it I approve. nolabear Jun 2014 #87

so if Hillary runs, who will be the democrat in the race? nt msongs Jun 2014 #88

Republicans will never vote for her AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #89

The Bible twisted my thinking in a big way too, Hillary. hunter Jun 2014 #93

OMG! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #94

Can Ya Tell She's Running Yet ??? WillyT Jun 2014 #98

Puts herself in the news every damn day. morningfog Jun 2014 #146

I don't trust people that follow a bronze age book full of murder, stonings and rape Dragonfli Jun 2014 #99

Well she HAD to say that! Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #100

Profiles on the Right: �The Family,� aka �The Fellowship,� Zorra Jun 2014 #102

I believe it fadedrose Jun 2014 #103

That seals it Caretha Jun 2014 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author bmbmd Jun 2014 #105

That alone should be enough to disqualify her... truly fucking pathetic. bowens43 Jun 2014 #107

It's this catering, this political calculus. . . Stargleamer Jun 2014 #108

Women of the Religious Right see Hillary as a Victim of a Man KoKo Jun 2014 #113

Is Hillary Clinton still a member of The Fellowship? no_hypocrisy Jun 2014 #123

Haven't you said that you were a fan of the Pope ? so why is this a problem JI7 Jun 2014 #128

1) The pope is not a politician and he is not running for President. He is a religious cali Jun 2014 #133

but isn't it the Pope who should be held to a higher standard than a politician, after all she needs JI7 Jun 2014 #170

Totally Alarming colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #131

Say goodbye to my support. .. truebrit71 Jun 2014 #136

Great! Another so-called "Christian" chickenhawk. So, the Bible is her ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #139

This doesn't bother me. Her and her hubby's racist rhetoric in 2007-2008 does. Her association Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #140

Clinton: Obama Not Winning Over "Hard-Working Americans, White Americans" Whisp Jun 2014 #169

I never understood it. I never understood the black people who just swept Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #203

This is why I say if Hillary runs this time Whisp Jun 2014 #205

The same thing is happening this time around. I don't like the sense of entitlement. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #206

where's that 'puke' smilie?? nt elias49 Jun 2014 #154

Oh puke. roody Jun 2014 #156

Apparently Hillary's bible says when you lie, lie Big... Tuzla big. Whisp Jun 2014 #163

Learn how to spell gaffe before bloviating. Beacool Jun 2014 #165

so you don't think Tuzla was a big lie? Whisp Jun 2014 #166

Sweets, the day I can vote in Canada is the day I will care Beacool Jun 2014 #168

You seem to be afraid to face the truth about Hillary's large ability to lie. Whisp Jun 2014 #171

Look, I can't stand Hillary and don't want her to be president, but she was not moaning cui bono Jun 2014 #179

By my figures the Clintons have "earned" close to 5 million a year since rhett o rick Jun 2014 #185

That is a lot! cui bono Jun 2014 #196

Her biggest influence is who she studies the Bible with Oilwellian Jun 2014 #172

I am agnostic but was most heavily applegrove Jun 2014 #173

fine, give us a verse or two (other than "Jesus wept," though it'd seem appropriate in this case) MisterP Jun 2014 #174

Pathetic. The bible is not a suitable source for guidance in the political world. cui bono Jun 2014 #175

OMFG! mrsadm Jun 2014 #181

Is her favorite political philosopher Jesus? fujiyama Jun 2014 #182

religion. lol. KG Jun 2014 #186

As pandering goes, this is fairly benign. Orsino Jun 2014 #187

oh FFS, what lame nonsense to start the day with.... mike_c Jun 2014 #193

Thank God it isn't Atlas Shrugged PADemD Jun 2014 #195

I agree with you now, cali. Didnt' before. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #197

Here's why this is worrisome for Dems Proud Public Servant Jun 2014 #198

There is no way that I would ever vote for her. avebury Jun 2014 #200

Whatever turns you on, as we used to say HockeyMom Jun 2014 #201

All this means is she's running in 2016 0rganism Jun 2014 #204

A little pandering and condescension is to be expected joe_sixpack Jun 2014 #207

This is why I don't like Hillary Aerows Jun 2014 #208