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TreasonousBastard

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4. How much you wanna bet they can't...

Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:45 AM

Jun 2014

because it's just another group the conspiracy nuts who can't get an invite to claim are secretly running the world.

Took 'em a while, but they finally gave Rosicrucians and Masons a pass. They might catch up to the latest on the Templars.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] bigtree Jun 2014 OP

This one did it...in goes Hillary Clinton to my trashed words until November 2014 is over. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2014 #1

not ready? bigtree Jun 2014 #2

Working for Wendy. Too soon for 2016. ScreamingMeemie Jun 2014 #3

Wendy bigtree Jun 2014 #6

Well, you weren't too happy with my post about her statements pre-Iraq... madfloridian Jun 2014 #9

I agreed with half of what you posted bigtree Jun 2014 #11

Poster is referring to Wendy Davis, running for Gov in Tx Bongo Prophet Jun 2014 #46

I was thinking Texas bigtree Jun 2014 #58

Wendy Davis WhiteTara Jun 2014 #113

Trashing words? enlightenment Jun 2014 #12

click on bigtree Jun 2014 #15

Thank you. enlightenment Jun 2014 #32

How much you wanna bet they can't... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #4

I spent two days on this. Everything points to tactical association. joshcryer Jun 2014 #7

so we shouldn't believe what a potential nominee says but instead try to interpret what they piratefish08 Jun 2014 #22

Who was the communist she worked for? treestar Jun 2014 #61

Thank you for doing the research, josh. Research: Who'da thunk it? Hekate Jun 2014 #76

You think she's that cynical? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #141

I have several reputable sources that tie them together. madfloridian Jun 2014 #8

well, we can see all the references to Coe, but there's not a thing specific to Hillary bigtree Jun 2014 #10

They aren't the kind of people that I'd go out of my way to "pray" with. delrem Jun 2014 #13

Obama did the weekly Senate Prayer meeting. joshcryer Jun 2014 #17

Good for him. Does that give you a thrill? delrem Jun 2014 #18

There's a 2007 Mother Jones article that is a little more specific. madfloridian Jun 2014 #14

"...prayed with them a few times." ? Maedhros Jun 2014 #83

uh, uh bigtree Jun 2014 #87

I certainly wouldn't remain a part of an organization for 15+ years Maedhros Jun 2014 #88

I'm almost certain that she hasn't 'remained part of that org' for 15 years bigtree Jun 2014 #94

Here's what I have: Maedhros Jun 2014 #109

so what you have is her statement. Check. bigtree Jun 2014 #111

She praises Coe. With his track record, that praise makes me uncomfortable with her Maedhros Jun 2014 #115

sounds fair for you to make your own judgement bigtree Jun 2014 #120

To be honest, it's not really a fair question. Maedhros Jun 2014 #131

if it's not a fair question, then it's not a fair to make the conclusions based on it bigtree Jun 2014 #133

Other than what she wrote in her memoir? Maedhros Jun 2014 #134

but, you have absolutely no proof that she approved of his 'agenda' bigtree Jun 2014 #136

I would think that if she disapproved, she wouldn't single him out for praise Maedhros Jun 2014 #137

yeah, the motherjones piece is just a better organized version of DU smears. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #129

Hope to see it eventually. joshcryer Jun 2014 #16

If you have evidence, post it. Otherwise...can you address your debunked comments msanthrope Jun 2014 #19

How about an excerpt from her own book? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #20

The Family is rotten and insidious! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #138

Any politician who has ever attended the National sufrommich Jun 2014 #21

Hillary described Coe as a "mentor" Oilwellian Jun 2014 #24

Coe was a mentor for Chuck Colson, too. grasswire Jun 2014 #60

it's about degree. Hillary was involved with this group weekly, not yearly cali Jun 2014 #140

She constantly stated her opposition to equal rights for some minorities Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #23

many presidents have attended those prayer breakfasts, some attendees have questionable pasts bigtree Jun 2014 #26

She didn't just attend the prayer breakfasts. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #28

you've gone back to that smear of a Mother Jones article bigtree Jun 2014 #31

It's credible in my book. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #33

I don't believe you were ever with her bigtree Jun 2014 #34

I was neutral on her before, but not now. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #37

one sentence of indecipherable praise uttered ages ago about an organizer of the prayer breakfasts?? bigtree Jun 2014 #40

What she said was not vague at all. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #47

indeed it is, and nothing about Hillary since confirms the worst you've gleaned from that comment bigtree Jun 2014 #50

So she has never denied it. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #59

she never denied killing Vince Foster either bigtree Jun 2014 #64

I think that's letting her off a little too easily in this case. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #78

you've stretched those accounts to include Hillary in the worst of it bigtree Jun 2014 #82

She could deny it, why doesn't she? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #95

It might explain her long time position on Gay Marriage. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #25

or, she just held a wrong view bigtree Jun 2014 #27

Curious. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #29

I think she's the only one that can really speak to what she believes and why bigtree Jun 2014 #30

I don't believe I have done so. Savannahmann Jun 2014 #38

would you say the same if she associated with the KKK for all those years she did with The Fam? Whisp Jun 2014 #35

where's your proof that she 'associated' with the 'Family'? bigtree Jun 2014 #36

It's your choice to believe it or not. Whisp Jun 2014 #39

another lousy piece of reporting bigtree Jun 2014 #41

try googling Doug Coe, you might find some youtube speeches of his Whisp Jun 2014 #42

old statement that amounted to nothing bigtree Jun 2014 #43

Hopefully you will never see how very wrong you are, bigtree. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #44

let's see. 2007 to 2014 bigtree Jun 2014 #45

and it's not wrong to know that Hillary thinks Very Highly of a sick person. Whisp Jun 2014 #48

how do you know what she really thinks of him from that one statement? bigtree Jun 2014 #49

excuse me? Whisp Jun 2014 #51

How much praise of an active bigot is acceptable to you, bigtree? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #52

you really don't mind lying to make your accusations against me do you? bigtree Jun 2014 #56

Excuse me? The Family is involved in the Ugandan pogroms, Hillary praises the leader of the Family Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #67

she didn't praise him for any of that and you know it bigtree Jun 2014 #72

Iow, Coe is a cool spiritual guy, even though his actions suck. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #80

still stretching bigtree Jun 2014 #84

No, she praised him. You can't deny that. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #93

yeah, she praised him in that one sentence. bigtree Jun 2014 #100

Fine by me. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #107

I find it really odd that saying nice things about an awful man is so easily accepted... Whisp Jun 2014 #106

the fact that she associates and prays with them is enough for me, frankly.... mike_c Jun 2014 #53

It is not just her nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #54

so Hillary wants to lower the standard of living and get rid of the minimum wage? bigtree Jun 2014 #63

The book will tell you who the family is nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #65

does the book provide proof of Hillary's involvement with the participant's transgressions? bigtree Jun 2014 #68

She is mentioned as one of the people who have been part of it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #71

well, I'm not going to repeat all of this for your benefit bigtree Jun 2014 #73

But attendance at the house does nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #74

Oh and working at the Walmart board, who are close allies of Coe nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #77

Link to a sermon about the Family from a Unitarian Minister. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #55

I didn't see Hillary anywhere in there bigtree Jun 2014 #57

It is background on the group whose leader Hillary praises Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #62

you mean 'praised' in one statement bigtree Jun 2014 #66

So one lavish praise of an active bigot is acceptable to you? 'It's just one set of compliments to a Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #70

Nowhere do I say it's 'acceptable' that's just another lie about me from you bigtree Jun 2014 #79

These people are in Jeremiah Wright territory tritsofme Jun 2014 #69

The current spew is beyond belief -- straight-up ratfucking. Hekate Jun 2014 #75

A potential Democratic POTUS candidate hanging out with a dangerous RW extremist group fully Zorra Jun 2014 #81

the only 'hanging out' that's been verified is at the Senate Prayer Breakfasts bigtree Jun 2014 #85

You might want to read this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #86

that article reminds me of what you apparently think constitutes 'reporting' bigtree Jun 2014 #89

Actually you are calling mother jones what I think you are... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #90

I'm referring to one article bigtree Jun 2014 #92

You snould also add into your avoid reading list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #99

confirmed the remark, not the rest of the accusations. Are you really a reporter? bigtree Jun 2014 #102

Ah more personal attacks. Lovely nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #105

post the sources bigtree Jun 2014 #108

Yuo call bullshit nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #112

this is a joke. You've fragmented all of this because you can't actually show a link between Clinton bigtree Jun 2014 #118

You are even discounting her own nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #121

she didn't refer to anything more than the paragraph you posted bigtree Jun 2014 #122

You have not read her nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #124

not read it? It's one sentence and you've spammed this thread with it bigtree Jun 2014 #126

In that case, Mrs. Clinton may want to consider a libel suit against the author of this piece: Zorra Jun 2014 #96

you know that's a non-starter for these public figures bigtree Jun 2014 #103

I knew, without any doubt whatsoever, that you'd come back at me with a personal attack. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #110

are you schooled in reporting? bigtree Jun 2014 #116

News services nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #123

what she wrote isn't proof of an association with anything improper bigtree Jun 2014 #125

The author/reporter/publication can be successfully sued for libel/defamation Zorra Jun 2014 #128

harm to the plaintiff bigtree Jun 2014 #130

Taking the trash out... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #91

so you wouldn't have a problem with someone praying with David Duke, for instance? cali Jun 2014 #97

never claimed to not have a problem with the praise, so that Dave Duke crap bigtree Jun 2014 #127

Bigtree, ignore the bitters. Beacool Jun 2014 #98

Also ignore her autobiography while you are at it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #101

I took a great deal of time trying to discuss issues of substance over the past week bigtree Jun 2014 #104

Let them have it, then. Beacool Jun 2014 #117

"any influence on Hillary Clinton at all beyond her faith." Chan790 Jun 2014 #114

her faith is damning? bigtree Jun 2014 #119

If her faith is in line with this fucked up prosperity cult then it is damning TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #139

fair statement bigtree Jun 2014 #142

bigtree, thanks for taking this on - mostly on your own wyldwolf Jun 2014 #132

Smearing the Clintons is a national past time. Vattel Jun 2014 #135