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Waiting For Everyman

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22. Hillary's prayer group beginning in 1993, are you ready for this?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jun 2014

I was shocked.

Susan Baker, wife of James Baker
Joanne Kemp, wife of Jack Kemp
Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke (see article excerpt below)
Grace Nelson, wife of Sen. Bill Nelson, she is the leader of the group

Hillary isn't just attending a once-a-year event, the prayer group shows that she is plugged in to this organization on an ongoing, small group, personal basis.

I didn't know this about her before today, but it sure clears up a lot for me.



http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-hillary-clintons-religion-and-politics?page=2

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When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.

Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family&quot , a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

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The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance.

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Unlikely partnerships have become a Clinton trademark. Some are symbolic, such as her support for a ban on flag burning with Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and funding for research on the dangers of video games with Brownback and Santorum. But Clinton has also joined the gop on legislation that redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms. With Santorum, Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act; she didn't back off even after Republican senators such as Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter pulled their names from the bill citing concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobs—say, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics.

Clinton has championed federal funding of faith-based social services, which she embraced years before George W. Bush did; Marci Hamilton, author of God vs. the Gavel, says that the Clintons' approach to faith-based initiatives "set the stage for Bush." Clinton has also long supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a measure that has become a purity test for any candidate wishing to avoid war with the Christian right.

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But the senator's project isn't the conversion of her adversaries; it's tempering their opposition so she can court a new generation of Clinton Republicans, values voters who have grown estranged from the Christian right. And while such crossover conservatives may never agree with her on the old litmus-test issues, there is an important, and broader, common ground—the kind of faith-based politics that, under the right circumstances, will permit majority morality to trump individual rights.
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Jeff Sharlet appears to be the expert on this. He wrote the books:

The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, 2009 ; and C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy, 2010; and is a contributing editor at Harper's and Rolling Stone.
I support Hillary Clinton [View all] Harmony Blue Jun 2014 OP
Don't her thoughts and choices reflect on the sort of President she would be? el_bryanto Jun 2014 #1
Exactly. If she believes in the flying spaghetti monster so thoroughly Whisp Jun 2014 #7
I don't agree Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #14
We can disagree about how professional she is too. Whisp Jun 2014 #20
President Obama trusted her Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #28
I have no idea how all that transpired, and neither do you Whisp Jun 2014 #30
you are also in the minority with such beliefs.....at least among Democrats VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #29
Wow. Highly original post. HERVEPA Jun 2014 #2
Why is anyone even attacking Hillary? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #3
This is the pre-show fantasy ticket period. onehandle Jun 2014 #6
Yeah, and it's all Hillary's fault. Beacool Jun 2014 #12
That's the nicest spin on it I've seen. To me, at this point, it looks like Hekate Jun 2014 #50
because she is a DLCer hfojvt Jun 2014 #34
Yep...nt clarice Jun 2014 #39
But she hasn't even announced she's running. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #40
sometimes you have to be proactive hfojvt Jun 2014 #43
Until we destroy her to the point that JaneyVee Jun 2014 #45
Me too Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #4
Sorry, but "beliefs" are exactly why ANY POLITICIAN is criticized. Dawgs Jun 2014 #5
The beliefs of a candidate shape and determine a candidate's policies. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #8
If President Obama felt that her beliefs could create potential conflict of interest Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #16
I have a problem with President Obama's appointments. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #56
Did she tell you this herself or are you just projecting? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #31
Maybe it's time to change your avatar. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #9
Maybe you should join humanity sometime Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #13
how about attacking someone for USING religion to pander? oooh, that's not fair, right? cali Jun 2014 #18
You believe she is pandering Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #21
As has been mentioned before, HRC has been an "out" Methodist her whole life Hekate Jun 2014 #61
LOL, +1000! Nt Logical Jun 2014 #54
Another post on this? Marrah_G Jun 2014 #10
Her beliefs may or may not include Christianity... Orsino Jun 2014 #11
She is human? Beacool Jun 2014 #15
I personally don't understand why Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #42
Because they fear her. Ditto for the Republicans. Beacool Jun 2014 #49
that was convincing. not. you don't discredit a single charge against her- not one. cali Jun 2014 #17
Here is one example Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #19
as do the majority of Democrats "some" on DU non withstanding! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #32
Hillary's prayer group beginning in 1993, are you ready for this? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #22
So Hillary Clinton did a good job of keeping her Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #23
Court room "evidence"? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #24
These days people want to throw around accusations Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #25
It was, according to her memoir Living History, a bi-partisan group. Remember bi-partisanship? Hekate Jun 2014 #51
How many Dems would it take to overcome that list? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #57
So, is the complete membership list available, or are only the GOP members on it? Hekate Jun 2014 #58
I don't need the list, those cited are enough for me. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #59
Well, that's open-minded of you, isn't it? No need for bi-partisanship at all. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #60
How much poison is ok? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #62
I've been here for since 2002, and long ago did my research on the Dominionists Hekate Jun 2014 #63
DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2014 #26
Sid reccing this? But of course. closeupready Jun 2014 #47
Certainly she is human and is allowed to have her own Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #27
From what I gather from some of the post there seems to be those who condemns Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #33
Warren has stated she is not running. Personally I do think Sanders is too old LynneSin Jun 2014 #37
OMG Phlem Jun 2014 #35
I do not have blind faith in bashing, it turns people away. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #38
Well aren't you special. Phlem Jun 2014 #41
I suport Hillary Clinton IF she should get the 2016 nomination LynneSin Jun 2014 #36
K & R. I do think some of the persoanl attacks are valid. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #44
Completely disagree. 100%. closeupready Jun 2014 #46
You can support whoever you want nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #48
Lalalalalalala they can't hearrrrrr you.................but yes, you are correct. djean111 Jun 2014 #52
No it is not working nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #55
LOL, ok! nt Logical Jun 2014 #53
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