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Vattel

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30. This sounds like the sort of wild speculation that RWers engage in so much.

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:51 AM

Apr 2012

I mean, seriously, a serial murderer? We on the left should be more evidence-based. I have to admit that I have been appalled at all of the wild speculation that has appeared on DU. Because his father was a magistrate in a different state, or his grandfather was in the CIA, some DUers have convinced themselves that undue influence was used to help him avoid charges. Some DUers are now claiming that the enhanced video was doctored. How on earth do they know this?

I prefer to admit that I don't know what if any crime Zimmerman committed. I would certainly not be surprised at all if he turns out to be a murderer. I also wouldn't be too surprised if it turns out that the killing was not criminal because, under the law, it was justifiable self-defense.

Please let's not behave like a bunch of birthers.

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I am Sick of all the Zimmerman Defenders [View all] rbrnmw Apr 2012 OP

A tried and true rightist bag of malignant tricks. MarianJack Apr 2012 #1

Repugs love to blame the victim - TBF Apr 2012 #2

all americans tend to "blame the victim". iemitsu Apr 2012 #52

i meant to say. iemitsu Apr 2012 #55

That's what you intended to say? TBF Apr 2012 #59

herman cain is an idiot iemitsu Apr 2012 #64

Herman Cain is wrong about why - TBF Apr 2012 #71

TBF, i agree with you that it is our economic system iemitsu Apr 2012 #72

I thought we might be on the same page with that - TBF Apr 2012 #73

yep, sorry i'm so obtuse that it took so many posts to get my meaning. iemitsu Apr 2012 #74

I may be the obtuse one - TBF Apr 2012 #75

thanks. iemitsu Apr 2012 #76

I can't believe ABC's "Enhance Video" showing signs of "wounds" I've seen those kind of marks Justice wanted Apr 2012 #3

That "enhancement" is bullshit rbrnmw Apr 2012 #7

hell I'll go one step further and say it was photoshoped Justice wanted Apr 2012 #11

I agree 100000% with you. It's sickening the way his apologists wrench themselves into pretzels Ecumenist Apr 2012 #4

Add ABC to the list of fabricators and dissemblers. leveymg Apr 2012 #5

...and the blood on his shirt!!! They can say he was hit...but can't argue there was NO BLOOD uponit7771 Apr 2012 #16

Who, what, where? Is this in response to something on the radio or teevee? HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #6

Not any one thing all of it rbrnmw Apr 2012 #9

Unrec'd brooklynite Apr 2012 #8

I disagree I do think he may have murdered before rbrnmw Apr 2012 #10

...based on... brooklynite Apr 2012 #12

I think he may have had a practice victim or two rbrnmw Apr 2012 #13

I think you watch too much TV zipplewrath Apr 2012 #14

I don't watch TV n/t rbrnmw Apr 2012 #15

Reality is often more scary than fiction davidthegnome Apr 2012 #17

If Trayvon can be a thug for wearing certain apparel rbrnmw Apr 2012 #18

That's some rock solid reasoning right there. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #20

But he wasn't zipplewrath Apr 2012 #29

i love your maxim iemitsu Apr 2012 #54

Hanlon's Razor.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #57

thank you. iemitsu Apr 2012 #66

I think it's based on .... oldhippie Apr 2012 #43

What, did you recommend so you could unrecommend? 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #53

Vigilante apologists suck jpak Apr 2012 #19

IF only they had arrested him. Not Me Apr 2012 #21

Why hasn't he been arrested?! Nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #23

It seems hard to defend Zimmerman anymore. His case is falling apart. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #22

I believe the decision to charge him with a crime, or not to charge him will be based largely... slackmaster Apr 2012 #33

The autopsy report will be huge factor, one way or the other. Mariana Apr 2012 #46

How long has it been? They've got the report already. But this drags on. Sure, it might not come out freshwest Apr 2012 #51

In Zimmerman's original 911 call, he admits he followed JDPriestly Apr 2012 #35

Not everyone who carries a concealed weapon is looking for a confrontation. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #49

"just" + chasing down a person while armed do not belong in the same sentence. bettyellen Apr 2012 #70

"chasing down". Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #78

it is hard to verify the actual reason for the special treatment iemitsu Apr 2012 #58

Holy shit I did not know that. n/t Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #77

Anyone who defends Zimmerman is probably mentally ill Gurgen4 Apr 2012 #24

Zimmermann is the type The Wizard Apr 2012 #25

I will use this case to Tarnish anything that comes out of the Orlando Sentinel forever. slampoet Apr 2012 #26

One headline in the 90's "The Lord has risen!" RedCloud Apr 2012 #32

I don't understand or can fathom folks from Judge Zimmerman on down. bayareaboy Apr 2012 #27

dont'cha know the predominant mindset of his defenders? SemperEadem Apr 2012 #28

This sounds like the sort of wild speculation that RWers engage in so much. Vattel Apr 2012 #30

you are right I had been up all night rbrnmw Apr 2012 #34

No worries, it happens. Vattel Apr 2012 #40

It was not justifiable self-defense. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #37

Zimmerman did act wrongly first, but following Martin and even confronting him, was not criminal. Vattel Apr 2012 #41

Trayvon was acting in self-defense. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #44

Yes Zimmerman was armed prior to the incident. Vattel Apr 2012 #47

Have you listened to Zimmerman's first 911 call? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #79

Depends On How You Confront A Person, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #48

You are absolutely correct. Vattel Apr 2012 #62

We will never hear Trayvon Martin's side of the story. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #80

yes jd, if zimmerman had just watched martin iemitsu Apr 2012 #61

That's a well-reasoned post RZM Apr 2012 #42

Being able to admit that you don't know something is an underestimated virtue. Vattel Apr 2012 #67

when people don't have all the information or are being denied a plausible iemitsu Apr 2012 #60

I have no objections for asking questions like, "Did Zimmermans father help keep him out of jail?" Vattel Apr 2012 #63

yes, i agree that embracing odd and fanciful suggestions iemitsu Apr 2012 #69

To have an on the top head wound RedCloud Apr 2012 #31

Trayvon would have to be a Super Duper Superman rbrnmw Apr 2012 #36

I think most of them know damn well that Zimmerman is full of shit. Mariana Apr 2012 #38

reminds me of this guy rbrnmw Apr 2012 #45

If English isn't your first language, I apologize. Gregorian Apr 2012 #39

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #50

There are plenty of Zimmerman apologists right here on DU, and it's disgusting!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #56

Me too, he was out to get the kid even when the cops told him to stay put! I can never ever say how akbacchus_BC Apr 2012 #65

and they ask why black men are not looking after their families. Well hello, you shoot them akbacchus_BC Apr 2012 #68