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freshwest

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11. True, but when you take the totality of charges even if dropped, he's unstable. I don't know if any
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:54 AM
Apr 2012

Of the states with CCW ask for anything more than a criminal background check. Some would say asking them to fulfill some sort of mental health requirement would be an intrusion into freedom of thought. But we let the media Goebbels intrude there everyday to get our emotions riled up, like Zimmerman was.

But as far as I know, the defenders of the second really do want the sale, possession and use of firearms to be exactly as it was in the days it was set to paper. Just a matter of commerce, like buying a screwdriver. Their argument is always set that way, 'guns don't kill people, people kill people.' No shit, Sherlock, I haven't heard of any bears in the woods shooting people, not yet, anyway.

The example is brought up that a person could kill another with something else, a hammer, a kitchen knife, an axe, whatever. But those tools have more than one function, guns have no other purpose but to kill. Honestly, do you saw wood with gunfire?

I don't want a society where every action a person does is circumspect to some political consensus of who is and isn't competent, etc. But IMHO, the ALEC push to have these laws enacted in every state, and their fear mongering meme, Obama is coming for your guns! is really about preparing for violent revolution, which will open to the door to outright strongman fascists. They've played Americans like a fiddle.

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After hearing that tape I damn near cried at work, it's horrific sounding to me cause I know so many uponit7771 Apr 2012 #1
And to think, Zimmerman's dad WANTS him to get off scott-free! After TORTURING Trayvon. janedum Apr 2012 #20
So why, oh why - can anyone who assaulted a police officer get to carry a conceeal weapon? jpak Apr 2012 #2
Someone said 'Cowboyism.' Wild west movies had plenty of psycho's with guns. freshwest Apr 2012 #5
Because he wasn't prosecuted, so he wasn't convicted. Mariana Apr 2012 #6
Exactly. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #10
True, but when you take the totality of charges even if dropped, he's unstable. I don't know if any freshwest Apr 2012 #11
I don't like Florida's gun laws. Mariana Apr 2012 #28
They should have made dropping the charges conditional upon his agreeing pnwmom Apr 2012 #52
Simple - he was not CONVICTED IN A COURT OF LAW. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #9
Because he did not assault anyone jeff47 Apr 2012 #12
Wrong. Just because you aren't convicted in a court doesn't mean it didn't happen. uppityperson Apr 2012 #37
So you agree with me but I'm wrong? jeff47 Apr 2012 #50
They need protection from their victims. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #15
His FATHER IS "JUDGE" Zimmerman, that's why he can do whatever he damn well pleases, including KILL! janedum Apr 2012 #21
No, he's not a judge. Lasher Apr 2012 #26
In his application for sheriff's academy and excuse for his arrest record, Z uses the term 'judge.' freshwest Apr 2012 #30
The title, 'magistrate judge' has been widely used to describe Robert Zimmerman Lasher Apr 2012 #31
No offense, but irrelevant to the thrust of her post, which perhaps you missed. freshwest Apr 2012 #34
I made it pretty clear why I pointed it out. Lasher Apr 2012 #35
Sorry, but I've lost interest in this altogther. Going by example only. Let it go, okay? n/t freshwest Apr 2012 #36
The TROLL KNEW what my point was. I just ignored him. janedum Apr 2012 #45
With 18,666 posts, not a troll. So let's get back on topic. freshwest Apr 2012 #48
Father says he was a magistrate judge. They have enough power to subpoena Twitter on Wikileaks Catherina Apr 2012 #32
Please consider my reply #31 so that I can limit repitition. Lasher Apr 2012 #46
Nevertheless, he's well-connected ... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #40
I think that's true. Lasher Apr 2012 #51
The 911 tapes did it for me. As the mother of two boys, I knew instantly that that was Trayvon. yardwork Apr 2012 #3
I know how that feels. Sorry you heard that. Let's protect the kids, heck, all of us. freshwest Apr 2012 #19
I'm glad that those tapes were released so that America could hear them. This must stop. yardwork Apr 2012 #27
I just listened. There is no way that is Zimmy. uppityperson Apr 2012 #38
.... yardwork Apr 2012 #43
Glad I didn't click. I've heard boys cry in terror and pain and can't take it anymore. freshwest Apr 2012 #4
I'm with you - I can't bring myself to listen to it. Mariana Apr 2012 #7
former co-workers riverwalker Apr 2012 #8
Also if you listen to the recording you can hear the volume change and get louder. Ganja Ninja Apr 2012 #13
Yup. Waiting for the autopsy report. Betting more and more it shows he got shot in the back. uppityperson Apr 2012 #39
And if it turns out to be Zimmerman? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #14
TRayvon will still be dead....shot by Zimmerman who hunted him down and intiated a confrontation. Evasporque Apr 2012 #16
That will definitely be the prosecutions case. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #18
Where have you been in the last two days? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #17
SA was looking in another direction Occulus Apr 2012 #22
LOL! Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #23
+1,000! Word! n/t Surya Gayatri Apr 2012 #24
That would be Chameleon Alchemist. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #25
Several voice analysts have said definitively that it could NOT have been Zimmerman n/t markpkessinger Apr 2012 #41
And several witnesses said it was him. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #42
There are conflicting witness accounts . . . markpkessinger Apr 2012 #44
I think everything is worthy of skepticism at this point. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #47
Several has been reduced from two nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #55
When is this asshole going to be arrested? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #29
The wailing means first degree murder. my wife made Solomon Apr 2012 #33
The question is, why have the police been covering for Zimmerman? Matariki Apr 2012 #49
I think the police was in a denial mode shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #54
Not many of us have heard a person wail and be killed. grasswire Apr 2012 #53
So sad to hear, not only is he screaming "HELP" & "HELP ME" but I'm sure I hear "WHY?" Raine Apr 2012 #56
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