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K&R! Life could be so simple! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #1
Could you imagine the SIZE OF THE INTERNATIONAL... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #81
It would be a huge army. I just don't understand some humans, not at all. One little spinning RKP5637 Jun 2014 #89
Humans are just pretentious monkeys, RKP5637. johnlucas Jun 2014 #172
Yep, that sums it up quite well! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #178
This plan wouldn't work. CSStrowbridge Jun 2014 #132
It's an illustration .. Lenomsky Jun 2014 #138
Yes, I totally agree! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #192
Good lord. This isn't a proposed site. Orsino Jun 2014 #147
^THIS Jamastiene Jun 2014 #158
Or the acreage covered by graves of the people lost to the pursuit of oil csziggy Jun 2014 #161
That's the utterly depressing part Aerows Jun 2014 #188
+ about a million! Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #195
It sort of is a proposed site goldent Jun 2014 #190
LOL!! How did you get to "US invading for petroleum" or anything like that? WOW!!! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #193
I suspect the wires to run power around the world would be more expensive than quakerboy Jun 2014 #189
We would not have to worry about it... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #194
And CLEAN! southerncrone Jun 2014 #101
Looks like about 900 square miles total PatrickforO Jun 2014 #137
Yep, just a pipe dream with bribed politicians. And, there would be the solar wars. Humans don't RKP5637 Jun 2014 #139
900 square miles? Looks more like roughly 35,000 square miles. cheapdate Jun 2014 #171
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #2
My pleasure! redqueen Jun 2014 #3
Peace to you, redqueen. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #5
I heartily second that! theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #7
"They" will demand evidence this is true from many sources duhneece Jun 2014 #50
A post just a few down from yours does exactly what you said. Squinch Jun 2014 #112
Pedantic: Probably need to quadruple the "world" box to cover transmission losses. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #4
Do you have something to back up that assertion? I would be interested in more info on this subject. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #22
Ohm's law is the place to start understanding transmission loss FrodosPet Jun 2014 #38
so then, USA would be better off to locate their panels our SW deserts. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #43
Big plants could be put in the desert, but wide spread individual installatios are best FrodosPet Jun 2014 #67
There are a couple of interesting TED videos about battery storage... Blanks Jun 2014 #73
Wouldn't the daily charge/discharge rapidly reduce battery efficiency? n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2014 #74
Shhhhhhhhhh .... oldhippie Jun 2014 #75
I think battery technology has improved a lot... Blanks Jun 2014 #78
It depends on the battery chemistry. jeff47 Jun 2014 #90
The batteries being developed for EVs are what will be used kristopher Jun 2014 #124
Maybe, maybe not. jeff47 Jun 2014 #144
Solar on every rooftop. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #99
"... you wouldn't need to store it ..." oldhippie Jun 2014 #182
well... now don't give me a hard time on this.. wouldn't have to store a ton of it, because Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #183
Not to give you a hard time, but oldhippie Jun 2014 #184
I have no credibility already, so it's not a concern. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #185
OK, I understand .... oldhippie Jun 2014 #186
I am not an engineer, luckily for those people. Voice for Peace Jun 2014 #187
I say put them over ... aggiesal Jun 2014 #70
^^^ THIS. MH1 Jun 2014 #102
In the medians of interstates. greiner3 Jun 2014 #122
Our power distribution model is horrifyingly antiquated Recursion Jun 2014 #129
I wouldn't lose much in transmission if I put solar panels on my roof here in Southern JDPriestly Jun 2014 #33
I agree that a roof is the best place. demigoddess Jun 2014 #83
The system we've just installed... meaculpa2011 Jun 2014 #146
A friend of mine lives in so cal and had solar installed for free basically Rainforestgoddess Jun 2014 #96
Probably more than that.. in fact its not really practical over a few thousand miles. DCBob Jun 2014 #37
That seems to be discussed in the third section of the thesis - pages 33 to 49 of the linked pdf... xocet Jun 2014 #41
Would super-conductive lines reduce that transmission loss? n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #109
Yes, but we haven't come up with superconductors jeff47 Jun 2014 #145
I think this is a metaphorical placement. An illustration. The facilities would be placed closer to newthinking Jun 2014 #114
Pretty picture... B2G Jun 2014 #6
Nicely dismissive. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #10
No, actually Android3.14 Jun 2014 #80
solar constant - to whom it may concern kg4jxt Jun 2014 #177
link to "Eco-balance of a Solar Electricity Transmission from North Africa to Europe" sl8 Jun 2014 #19
It does not have to be one big center! Helen Borg Jun 2014 #36
That point is so obvious that I couldn't bring myself to type it. redqueen Jun 2014 #46
Geeze, a lot of sensitive types here today B2G Jun 2014 #62
I used to rationalize my back-handed compliments too. LanternWaste Jun 2014 #68
I long for the day when you say greyl Jun 2014 #121
No kidding... Thanks for asking, inquiring minds want to know! (nt) PosterChild Jun 2014 #104
They all sound so smart to be completely missing the point the way they are... Squinch Jun 2014 #113
And that would create masses of well-paid local jobs duhneece Jun 2014 #47
Water is the problem... Bigmack Jun 2014 #8
Coastal installation? redqueen Jun 2014 #9
Floating on water? AlbertCat Jun 2014 #11
That sounds cool. randome Jun 2014 #30
Wasn't there talk tom_kelly Jun 2014 #61
Far less water than thermal fossil or nuclear. kristopher Jun 2014 #12
Put collecting ponds under the panel arrays, collect the wastewater from them, filter it, Zorra Jun 2014 #24
Mental note: buy Windex stock. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #25
Gas fracking and oil drilling also take a lot of water. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #52
I clean mine once a year and they work well. roody Jun 2014 #100
End of the 'overcharge for water' market autorank Jun 2014 #131
Well, c'mon Algeria! Get to it!!! The_Commonist Jun 2014 #13
Precisely why smallcat88 Jun 2014 #14
We were in Copenhagen earlier this month. Flying out, my husband mnhtnbb Jun 2014 #176
Perfect smallcat88 Jun 2014 #179
Oh sure. Enslave us to the biggest source of radiation in the solar system Orrex Jun 2014 #15
And if history is an indicator, nobody has thought of how and where to store the waste yet. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #26
Damn! I didn't even think of that! Orrex Jun 2014 #29
See what I mean, even well intentioned people can't get it right every time! n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #32
Awsome Stryst Jun 2014 #16
Ah, the curse of black and white thinking. AllyCat Jun 2014 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Stryst Jun 2014 #56
My thought exactly.... Ineeda Jun 2014 #65
"... look at the top of every building..." oldhippie Jun 2014 #76
Western or southwestern facing panels are often more financially attractive kristopher Jun 2014 #125
True. Unfortunately, my west side roof .... oldhippie Jun 2014 #149
So because your building has a shaded roof AllyCat Jun 2014 #180
Nope, didn't say that ..... oldhippie Jun 2014 #181
USPS. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2014 #118
Anyone who's ever driven through the deserts sufrommich Jun 2014 #17
A bit misleading in that Im sure it does not take into account distribution losses. DCBob Jun 2014 #18
That's a fair point of note Plucketeer Jun 2014 #35
Yes, they would have to be located across the globe within a few thousand miles of consumption.. DCBob Jun 2014 #42
It's called the 'roof' blackspade Jun 2014 #63
I dont think thats a large scale option. DCBob Jun 2014 #97
Yes but those actions will only lead to a slightly more hospitable ecosystem raouldukelives Jun 2014 #20
Lots of work wiring that solar panel to the entire world, though. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #21
K&R stage left Jun 2014 #23
Decentralize, of course Treant Jun 2014 #27
"I'm taking this as nothing more than an area required in a sunny place." redqueen Jun 2014 #34
redqueen, thank you for pointing out that we in this world can saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #28
Wow. Build in the Sahara and be done with it! Helen Borg Jun 2014 #31
This is what this graphic is referencing. progressoid Jun 2014 #40
K & R Great post. Thanks for bringing this up. n/t xocet Jun 2014 #44
That is a fair bit inaccurate berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #45
Much more realistic. That results in an area about 4 times larger than the one at the top. DCBob Jun 2014 #53
"Its still quite remarkable though how relatively small a space it would require." redqueen Jun 2014 #54
Yes, I don't disagree with the point. Just want to be accurate berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #64
I'd still like more decentralization Treant Jun 2014 #57
There we go. Thank you. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #98
Great post here. Much more realistic and data driven. karadax Jun 2014 #167
Rooftop? rickyhall Jun 2014 #48
Enormous Treant Jun 2014 #59
Sounds like BS, yet again Android3.14 Jun 2014 #49
Energy != electricity. jeff47 Jun 2014 #92
Wrong Android3.14 Jun 2014 #94
LOL, how about you make a post showing the size? You seem.... Logical Jun 2014 #162
Rethugs and their Big Oil buds would never allow it. lpbk2713 Jun 2014 #51
Absolutely. SoapBox Jun 2014 #66
They are actively fighting against it on every front. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #86
Incredible. blackspade Jun 2014 #55
Every country has the potential packman Jun 2014 #58
RECOMMEND short interview with Stanford Professor Mark Jacobson in GASLAND 2 + following overview: proverbialwisdom Jun 2014 #60
Thanks for your post! redqueen Jun 2014 #69
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #71
Important information, thank you. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #72
I object to solar strongly when it is sited on fragile, previously undeveloped desert environments. hunter Jun 2014 #77
Where there is a will there is a way, and there is big lobby that doesn't want us to have solar..... nolabels Jun 2014 #115
I find that extremely hard to believe. Does this come from a creditable source? n/t doc03 Jun 2014 #79
Article from Scientific American exboyfil Jun 2014 #82
Is there some sort of land shortage I don't know about? mathematic Jun 2014 #84
This is so stupid edhopper Jun 2014 #85
The point is to show how relatively little space can provide a lot of power. redqueen Jun 2014 #88
Poe's law /nt edhopper Jun 2014 #91
God dammit redqueen Jun 2014 #95
Thank you treestar Jun 2014 #143
Yeah it is. I wish I'd replied to one of the ones that's serious. redqueen Jun 2014 #150
Would it be stupid to at least offset peak use? TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #116
Poe's Law /nt edhopper Jun 2014 #117
Snort. "And later on World News, 6 billion people trip on their way to the bathroom" n/t jtuck004 Jun 2014 #119
There's this magical storage device called a battery. Ground breaking stuff. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #120
it's a joke edhopper Jun 2014 #140
Yes, it is. wtmusic Jun 2014 #133
... redqueen Jun 2014 #153
Even if they never generate energy, shouldn't the polar icecaps have solar panels? SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2014 #87
Yes, white ones. edgineered Jun 2014 #127
That's what I was thinking. Don't know how to keep them from blowing away though. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2014 #134
THAT'S HUGE!!! (As in 'nearly one tenth the size of the BP oil spill.) TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #93
There certainly are a lot of literalists on this site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #103
I'm a numbers type of guy wercal Jun 2014 #105
Great! Here are some numbers for you. wtmusic Jun 2014 #130
We are going to have to start somewhere (but really, it's already actually going on) nolabels Jun 2014 #135
No, actually, we don't "have to" do that at all wtmusic Jun 2014 #142
I am not a fossil fuel fan but for the last 37 years fixing trucks all day long that burn the stuff nolabels Jun 2014 #168
I am completely NOT following you ... brett_jv Jun 2014 #173
The oil, gas, and coal industries love renewables wtmusic Jun 2014 #191
Pssst, I sort of agree with you wercal Jun 2014 #148
Nobody here is ignoring cost - solar plus storage is already reaching grid parity bananas Jun 2014 #163
Ummm....Hawaii has triple the electricity cost than the rest of us wercal Jun 2014 #166
"California could follow in 2017, New York and Arizona in 2018, and many other states soon after." bananas Jun 2014 #169
Too much gibberish coming too fast wercal Jun 2014 #170
Elon Musk: "This is why I think solar power will be the primary long term solution" bananas Jun 2014 #164
Thanks for posting this - best thread of the day in my opinion aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #106
Actually...... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #107
Thank you - I'm sharing this lovemydog Jun 2014 #108
K&R emsimon33 Jun 2014 #110
Looks like Algeria has the potential to be the number 1 new world power. (literally) Kablooie Jun 2014 #111
The longest conversation I ever had with Al Gore was about this subject DFW Jun 2014 #123
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #126
Let's check in on Germany's solar experiment. wtmusic Jun 2014 #128
Most of the links and sublinks you posted are to greenwash type sites nolabels Jun 2014 #136
Bloomberg is a greenwash site? wtmusic Jun 2014 #141
Bloomberg is not a pro-business as usual site? intaglio Jun 2014 #151
Bloomberg is a pro-business site wtmusic Jun 2014 #155
LOL did you bother reading any of that? redqueen Jun 2014 #152
Of course wtmusic Jun 2014 #154
Your little link parade would make sense if posted in an anti-nuclear power thread. redqueen Jun 2014 #157
Bullshit wtmusic Jun 2014 #159
any stats on DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #156
Freakonomics padruig Jun 2014 #160
As long as its not centralized, it may be made more efficient... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #165
People, and their need for panacea-like solutions ... so predictable ... yet so sad ... brett_jv Jun 2014 #174
K&R Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #175
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