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bvar22

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111. An interesting blurb:

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:09 PM

Jun 2014

"What is known as the Family began with a clergyman named Abraham Vereide in Depression-era Seattle. Vereide, or Abram, as he is referred to by the Family, looked upon workers who went on strike to secure enough pay to feed their families as agents of Satan.

He was convinced that the Kingdom of God would be secured if the best among us, the rich that is, guided by Jesus Christ, made decisions for the rest of us unfettered by such messy things as democracy and the rule of law. If the poor could be made to see that God intended them to be poor and humbly accept their lot all would be well."

The above was from an Amazon Book Review.
There are some interesting reviews on that page.

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The Family was founded as an anti-labor movement. More about power than religion. [View all] madfloridian Jun 2014 OP

excellent, informative post.... mike_c Jun 2014 #1

K&R + bookmarked for later Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #2

Thanks.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #24

well, if it's anti-labor, no wonder Hillary threw workers under the bus.... antigop Jun 2014 #3

Don't forget her being on the Board of Directors of Walmart classykaren Jun 2014 #105

And support for Jeb Bush's union-busting school "reforms." n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #106

I would like to see this get recced instead of hidden... madfloridian Jun 2014 #4

k&r. Thanks, mad. antigop Jun 2014 #5

You're welcome. Just recced. madinmaryland Jun 2014 #35

Information like this should be recced. Rachel Maddow, airc, did some great reporting on the Family sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #29

I think Rachel had Sharlet on 4 or 5 times. madfloridian Jun 2014 #37

K&R Brickbat Jun 2014 #6

Just recced nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #7

The Kochs stayed in the shadows for as long as they could. Raksha Jun 2014 #122

I know that, and why the Family needs all the exposure nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #123

Makes sense, since Hillary was on Walmart's Board for years. closeupready Jun 2014 #8

It seems that we need to nominate a more transparently trustworthy candidate than Hillary Clinton. n Zorra Jun 2014 #9

So we're having primary wars murielm99 Jun 2014 #10

Not intended that way. But a friend of mine had a post hidden for saying this stuff. madfloridian Jun 2014 #11

From my POV, who we nominate as Democratic Candidate for POTUS is very important. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #20

Yes, as well we should. This inevitability of Clinton nonsense needs to be challenged. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #64

It would seem. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #51

DU Rec. and a link to a corresponding thread ... that was posted earlier by Luminous Animal = Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #12

My post is dedicated to her. madfloridian Jun 2014 #13

Yes. Thanks. Did not see a dedication in the OP. Mea Culpa. I am frustrated with the fact it Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #16

No I just contacted her personally. madfloridian Jun 2014 #18

Oh, ok ... I see. Please pass along my concerns to them. I don't LA personally on here but, I Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #23

Just heard from her. She was getting ready to quit. madfloridian Jun 2014 #52

I don't want her to quit. murielm99 Jun 2014 #116

+1000 rosesaylavee Jun 2014 #98

k&r Electric Monk Jun 2014 #119

What a bullshit hide hootinholler Jun 2014 #31

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #32

Sure was. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2014 #46

Yep. A quick search of DU's archives... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #57

A nice collection there! n/t hootinholler Jun 2014 #68

"Uninformed" is the word of the day. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #74

I'm not curious about that at all hootinholler Jun 2014 #80

Thanks. Hope some will read those madfloridian Jun 2014 #70

Agree. Another good read... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #81

It was, but I had only put part of the title. madfloridian Jun 2014 #107

Thanks for the links! octoberlib Jun 2014 #75

My pleasure! (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #82

Oh yes, Clinton would support their actions in Uganda. joshcryer Jun 2014 #73

It matters not if she supports any individual thing they do hootinholler Jun 2014 #84

I think it was a tactical thing she did when she needed to gain influence. joshcryer Jun 2014 #99

If you notice I didn't attempt to prove anything about Hillary. madfloridian Jun 2014 #85

No one denied there was such a connection. joshcryer Jun 2014 #97

Please take time to watch the NBC video I posted. Short and important. madfloridian Jun 2014 #14

IT's about the benjamins. it's always about the benjamins KG Jun 2014 #15

Oldest Anti-Labor Trick in the Book Octafish Jun 2014 #17

It doesn't seem like that long ago we discussed all that here. madfloridian Jun 2014 #22

Time Goes Fast Octafish Jun 2014 #25

Rachel Maddow also did some in depth reporting on the Family not so long ago. I'm surprised to read sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #30

There's no controversy discussing The Family... hootinholler Jun 2014 #38

Okay, I guess I missed most of what seemed to me some kind of denial that sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #48

It's a deliberate attack on those DUers who dare to bring up the fact Nay Jun 2014 #43

Good post. To put it even more bluntly, I expect Democrats to stand up AGAINST such groups, not sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #50

In my book, the "Family" is the enemy of the America I dream of... JEB Jun 2014 #83

Ugh! Kissenger, the war criminal! sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #88

Thanks madfloridian, nenagh Jun 2014 #19

Religion itself is all about power, IMO. SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2014 #21

Thanks MF....I remember the postings here on DU about this. KoKo Jun 2014 #26

I am sure connections like this affect policy decisions. madfloridian Jun 2014 #100

K&R x 100000000000000000000000000000000000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Jun 2014 #27

lol madfloridian Jun 2014 #28

Indeed I do. SamKnause Jun 2014 #39

..... madfloridian Jun 2014 #40

Amen, Sam. nt Nay Jun 2014 #44

K & R, for logical processing, and showing us how easily led we are. n/t TheJames Jun 2014 #58

What you said malokvale77 Jun 2014 #91

would you consider making this its own op so that we can rec it? niyad Jun 2014 #109

Can you give me instructions on how to do that ? SamKnause Jun 2014 #115

you don't have to trype the whole thing again. bring your cursor (the blinking niyad Jun 2014 #118

+1000 with you on all counts! Raksha Jun 2014 #125

Thanks. You have just done comprehensively what I was trying to do Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #33

No nothing like them. The Family has worldwide power. madfloridian Jun 2014 #45

Great post! smokey nj Jun 2014 #34

Too many Democrats are way too chickenshit about confronting the teavangelicals 47of74 Jun 2014 #36

Right out of Nazi Germany. And the Christian Dominionists (eventually) metastasized to Washington DC blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #41

I don't think it's rumor that they helped in Uganda's genocide bill against Gays. Rachel Maddow sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #47

You are correct. I recall that too, from a different source--maybe Sharlet? Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #66

And the Catholic Church came out against it. happyslug Jun 2014 #108

The Family doesn't have influence over the Ayn Rand followers in my neighborhood SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2014 #42

The Family doesn't care for any teabaggers hootinholler Jun 2014 #71

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #49

Outstanding OP. Reminds me of the old DU... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #53

re Clinton & assrtion of association with religion and therefor 'the Family' is there a point here? Bill USA Jun 2014 #54

I like Hilary mikeysnot Jun 2014 #55

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #56

Oops...the New Yorker Mag article is from 2010, not 2013. madfloridian Jun 2014 #59

kick G_j Jun 2014 #60

K&R octoberlib Jun 2014 #61

Kick. pa28 Jun 2014 #62

Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #63

K&R. This is important. woo me with science Jun 2014 #65

This is an excellent example of why, in my opinion, SheilaT Jun 2014 #67

K&R... KoKo Jun 2014 #69

No evidence she is associated with them. joshcryer Jun 2014 #72

Did you see the post earlier in the day Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #79

I didn't say she wasn't. joshcryer Jun 2014 #95

"Obama went to those payer breakfasts too" bvar22 Jun 2014 #110

You are conflating the annual prayer breakfast with the prayer groups to minimize the connection TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #124

Sharlet says in his book it was about connections. joshcryer Jun 2014 #126

That is a closer relationship by a lot than the annual breakfast. Not a formal member but a friend. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #127

K&R for an excellent post! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2014 #76

The Family = The Dominion. DeSwiss Jun 2014 #77

Politicians use it as an advertising agency to show off their faith..in advertising. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #78

k and r--I keep trying to forget about these hate-mongering, power-hungry thugs, but they just niyad Jun 2014 #86

They would if no one supported them by praying with them, eg. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #94

And then there's Somalia octoberlib Jun 2014 #87

I had been looking for that interview. madfloridian Jun 2014 #89

Not have heard of it or conveniently 'forgot' about it. I can't imagine anyone who has been here sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #90

Sabrina, not only is it implausible that anyone who reads here did not know about them, Dragonfli Jun 2014 #101

I just found the "DN" interview on You Tube...Here's Part 1.. KoKo Jun 2014 #114

K&R malokvale77 Jun 2014 #92

I have attempted to read 'The Family" for a while now. Cannot get far due to disgust. Great post! nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #93

Here's a Video if you can get the Bandwidth. RFK, Jr. interview with Jeff Sharlet... KoKo Jun 2014 #120

Thanks much, KoKo! nt Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #121

Fascinating interaction..Coe, George Bush, the Clintons. Paragraph from The New Yorker. madfloridian Jun 2014 #96

How The Family treats women. Jenny Sanford sent to C Street for marriage counseling....Video madfloridian Jun 2014 #102

we need memories of sunlight if we are to hope for a bright future NuttyFluffers Jun 2014 #103

Wow, excellent post. blackspade Jun 2014 #104

An interesting blurb: bvar22 Jun 2014 #111

And another interesting blurb... madfloridian Jun 2014 #112

huh, he also founded Goodwill MisterP Jun 2014 #117

I read that book. Well, most of it. It was page after page of people who claimed to valerief Jun 2014 #113