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heaven05

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104. you're entitled to your opinion

Reply to Doctor_J (Reply #87)

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:23 PM

Jun 2014

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Dennis J. Kucinich: Stop Calling the Iraq War a 'Mistake' [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 OP

these are the facts. this is the truth. go ahead, make fun of Kucinich, try cali Jun 2014 #1

"The Iraq War was not a "mistake" -- it resulted from calculated deception." Scuba Jun 2014 #10

I agree. That's a much more accurate description. Overseas Jun 2014 #33

In other words, it was not a war, it was a war crime. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #115

Bingo. Scuba Jun 2014 #123

Come on now. Some people *CHOSE* to accept the lies. newthinking Jun 2014 #130

Kucinich has been right about all of this from the beginning. He KNEW they were lying sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #54

Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Rev. Sykes, Davis MisterP Jun 2014 #85

Siegelman? nt. druidity33 Jun 2014 #116

They all knew the truth. Only some choose to stand with the MIC. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #103

Yes, they did, I do not believe the 'but we didn't know' excuses. They either supported sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #140

"All of them should be held accountable depending on their level of involvement and corroboration." rhett o rick Jun 2014 #145

Ex-Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich & Senator Barbara Boxer ticket in 2016. WilliamTuckness Jun 2014 #120

I would go for that ticket. And yes, SHAME on those who went after Kucinich, but we always knew sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #139

+1000 valerief Jun 2014 #73

That is why DK gets unfairly treated like a fringe groupie...he tells the truth. Rex Jun 2014 #89

"Truth Groupie"! n/t Beartracks Jun 2014 #106

Make Fun Of Him? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #107

damned right! wish I could rec your post. n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #110

He would make a great president, and if I had the opportunity to vote for him, I wouldn't hesitate sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #146

Trojan Horses billhicks76 Jun 2014 #150

Yes, I was never fooled by them. Because no actual Democrat could have found a single sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #151

Yes!!!!!! billhicks76 Jun 2014 #152

everyone would have KNOWN it wasn't a mistake Skittles Jun 2014 #2

But then it would potentially be much more difficult to get Americans to support future wars! stillwaiting Jun 2014 #19

blah blah blah. Where's the Kardashian thread? Beartracks Jun 2014 #66

Wanna prevent unnecessary future wars? randys1 Jun 2014 #76

That old saw has been played to it's death, it's an historically proven fallacy. 2banon Jun 2014 #93

I am confused, how can you know it wont work if it has NEVER NEVER NEVER randys1 Jun 2014 #95

put that chickenhawk bastard William Kristol at the top of that list Skittles Jun 2014 #100

... randys1 Jun 2014 #109

He'll get a deferment for senility erronis Jun 2014 #111

Let's not forget Dick Cheney YOHABLO Jun 2014 #117

that is where we keep screwing up awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #31

Sort of like... TommyCelt Jun 2014 #90

they need to start with number 2 and move from there rpannier Jun 2014 #3

A terrible shame that DK couldn't be President intaglio Jun 2014 #4

Yeah Buttttt gholtron Jun 2014 #30

gholtron what's your UFO point? I've never seen a billionaire accept bonniebgood Jun 2014 #32

so everyone should have the same opinion as you? gholtron Jun 2014 #147

I saw a UFO when I was about 7 years old and I'm not a billionare, and never saw another UFO. Sunlei Jun 2014 #47

Twice for me. Both times on the San Francisco Plateau in AZ. snort Jun 2014 #72

Twice! I always thought if I ever saw one again, I wouldn't turn and run! Sunlei Jun 2014 #131

Yup. snort Jun 2014 #132

when I visit my Moms house, I always love to walk out to that sandy clearing. Its still there. Sunlei Jun 2014 #135

Dennis would have used the bully pulpit to explain Enthusiast Jun 2014 #77

That maybe true gholtron Jun 2014 #148

At the time a majority of Americans were in favor of the public option. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #149

Thanks for letting me know to Ignore you! nt valerief Jun 2014 #80

+1. He's a nutjob, who finally landed his dream job. And yes, he did claim to see a UFO. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #94

Great quote on seeing UFOs RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #122

Did Jimmy make this "courageous" disclosure before or after he was elected? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #124

BEFORE: It was in the public record when he was Govenor Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #129

Might help explain why a second term escaped him. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #136

One of those guys in your avatar claimed to see a good reason to bomb the shit out of Iraq. flvegan Jun 2014 #142

And yet, both the guys in my avatar got a 2nd term. See how that works? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #144

But he doesn't look Presidential geomon666 Jun 2014 #51

And he was also the only possible candidate with less than 30% approval in his own home state. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #91

And another thing, he was against the war and H. Clinton was for it. I guess we should support rhett o rick Jun 2014 #96

I could care less who you guys support. I'm just stating the fact that DK was a DU phenom. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #98

K&R deutsey Jun 2014 #5

Spot On Bette R. Daize Jun 2014 #6

That simple malaise Jun 2014 #7

Galloway is a rogue .. Lenomsky Jun 2014 #13

Please! It is TOE the line Demeter Jun 2014 #15

My favorite Galloway moments malaise Jun 2014 #17

Yes, but "apparently" he is so bad for their "ratings"... Amonester Jun 2014 #46

K & R for the truth! n/t xocet Jun 2014 #8

refreshing Vattel Jun 2014 #9

Kucinich is spot-on -- that's a critically important distinction. n/t Martin Eden Jun 2014 #11

I agree with Mr Kucinich 100% !!!!!!!!! SamKnause Jun 2014 #12

Until there are War Crime Trials, there will be no resolution Demeter Jun 2014 #14

Kucinich's truth reveals the lie in all of us Fairgo Jun 2014 #16

"Calculated deception" indeed. democrank Jun 2014 #18

" Millions of people who marched in America in protest of the war" 90-percent Jun 2014 #20

Nailed it. ctsnowman Jun 2014 #21

Word. Octafish Jun 2014 #22

Disappointed jaxind Jun 2014 #23

If Obama heaven05 Jun 2014 #28

They're already causing plenty of "racial uproar", whatever that is Doctor_J Jun 2014 #87

you're entitled to your opinion heaven05 Jun 2014 #104

President Obama will be fortunate if those war criminals don't prosecute him. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #78

Yep. that's what happens when you try to make friends with rabid animals. Doctor_J Jun 2014 #88

What you mean is corporate power and MIC influence WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #118

Yes. That is what I mean. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #127

Very well stated and very true: Raksha Jun 2014 #113

And while we're at it, when horrified by the number of Iraqis executed by Isis, try to morningfog Jun 2014 #24

yeah, that shock and awe :( and then on ebay the next many years... Sunlei Jun 2014 #36

Bravo. blackspade Jun 2014 #25

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2014 #26

I wish we could get back that billion on pallets of cash! Bush sent there from Cheneys bank. Sunlei Jun 2014 #37

K&R Go Kooch! RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #27

a good article! But at this point, IMO..its Assad & letting him get away with all his bs that has sp Sunlei Jun 2014 #29

The US and its allies have been trying to overthrow Assad. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #137

I know. He got his huge family/close friends out of Syria and went to Geneva. Sunlei Jun 2014 #138

Well, can't say I have much respect for Dennis Kucinich... MohRokTah Jun 2014 #34

Well, you seem to like back-handed compliments... chervilant Jun 2014 #52

I'm not going to praise a man I have little respect for. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #57

Yeppers... chervilant Jun 2014 #58

. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #60

K&R. He tells it like it is. Overseas Jun 2014 #35

k&r... spanone Jun 2014 #38

I remember... MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #39

I remember... chervilant Jun 2014 #56

Yup. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #62

We have become the nation of the very few, chervilant Jun 2014 #70

I believe Kucinich is correct rock Jun 2014 #40

America’s news media is a key player polynomial Jun 2014 #41

Some quotes from Dennis Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #42

thanks! G_j Jun 2014 #49

Dennis was my first choice for president. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #79

Same for me, on both counts... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #155

it's been a long time since I've read those quotes mokawanis Jun 2014 #108

He was my first choice when he ran. Javaman Jun 2014 #43

Same here. MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #53

Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #81

Thank you. MuseRider Jun 2014 #44

To put it plainly, I believe that the war was the result of a conspiracy within the highest ladjf Jun 2014 #45

There is no question about it. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #83

meh, they still have wiggle room treestar Jun 2014 #48

I disagree... I think it could be proven they knew. SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #86

Proving all that is the problem treestar Jun 2014 #105

That is why I have supported Kooch for many a year. riqster Jun 2014 #50

We Are Docile gussmith Jun 2014 #55

K&R Jamastiene Jun 2014 #59

Mistake? What we are seeing right now is "Mission Accomplished". Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #61

TROOF. n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #63

Ah,...but Kucinich was (and still is) "unelectable" according to sensible woodchuck. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #64

Screw the woodchuck... RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #121

They gerrymandered this man out of office last year. toby jo Jun 2014 #65

Kucinich is bang on about this. Calling the Iraq War a "mistake" is a grave understatement. antiGOPin294 Jun 2014 #67

Kooch! navarth Jun 2014 #68

K&R nt redqueen Jun 2014 #69

I really wish Dennis would enter the Democratic presidential primary contest. I'd work Zorra Jun 2014 #71

Kucinich is correct pleinair Jun 2014 #74

K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #75

The Oligarch Overlords will decide what "truths" will be told or not told. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #99

Apparently. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #102

Why would Obama and the press do...... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #82

Green Day's American Idiot returns. Democrats_win Jun 2014 #84

There was no appetite for one administration prosecuting another, just as there was no appetite for Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #92

Do you argree that calling the war a mistake is wrong? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #97

Yes I "argree" (sp.)? And I also agree that while DK is popular "UNDERGROUND", up on the surface... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #101

K & R - I was about to post this article myself. Raksha Jun 2014 #112

K&r n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2014 #114

The time to STOP this atrocity was before it got started. bvar22 Jun 2014 #119

I Agree 100% With Dennis Kucinich!!! supercats Jun 2014 #125

The Iraq War was not a "mistake" -- it resulted from CALCULATED DECEPTION blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #126

One must ask, at first Twenty1first Jun 2014 #128

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #133

''Money trumps peace.'' -- George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007, White House press conference Octafish Jun 2014 #134

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #141

K&R Solly Mack Jun 2014 #143

With great respect, I think Mr. Kucinich is wrong. KentuckyWoman Jun 2014 #153

Not a mistake--an illegal invasion is a *war crime*. tblue37 Jun 2014 #154