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nadinbrzezinski

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21. She has done things that make her life already amazing

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:12 PM

Jun 2014

she was one of the people who went after one President Nixon as a young attorney. (And that is one reason the right hates her guts, most people don't even know that one)

She has been a leader in breaking a few glass ceilings...

While I do not particularly like the end solution, she was for almost universal access to health care before others were.

While her book "It takes a village" has problems with me on the religion chapter, as a first lady she advocated for programs to make it easier for families.

In the recent past she led the world in LGBT rights with the speech Zorra posted above.

As a member of the Clinton Foundation she has done a lot for education and access to silly shit like clean water.

The list of both negatives and positives is long. I just hope she decides to play grand mother and let the torch be passed to the next generation, to be brutally honest. Another Bush v Clinton in 2016 will not be healthy. (And that means I hope Jeb also stays home)

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Enough about Hillary's negatives [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 OP

She pulled herself out of poverty after leaving the White House 1000words Jun 2014 #1

lol m-lekktor Jun 2014 #7

. . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #10

Oh shit LittleBlue Jun 2014 #14

The hardships she and Bill endured Aerows Jun 2014 #28

$480,000/year will buy ... CountAllVotes Jun 2014 #36

She is one of us ripcord Jun 2014 #112

Hillary Joad HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #29

A heartbreaking picture of Bill, Hill, and Chelsea forced to leave the Whitehouse, homeless Dragonfli Jun 2014 #55

And as "Bill Joad" would say at the end of "The Grapes of Theft": Ken Burch Jun 2014 #150

You win the thread! Proud Public Servant Jun 2014 #32

Perfect. woo me with science Jun 2014 #48

I'm not competing with that one. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #51

Winner! lol 840high Jun 2014 #52

This! Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #59

LOL leftstreet Jun 2014 #78

ROFLMAO !!! - DUzy !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #94

Just like Mark the Match Boy. pa28 Jun 2014 #116

. Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2014 #121

I nearly spit take on that. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #134

Bravo! dflprincess Jun 2014 #140

Yes she knows our struggles! bobduca Jun 2014 #141

... Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #2

as Sec of State she put a lot of emphasis on issues concerning women around the world JI7 Jun 2014 #3

What are a few of her specific accomplishments in this regard? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #5

"John Kerry Demands End to Sexual Violence in War Zones" JI7 Jun 2014 #6

And you're impressed? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #56

who has been effective with israel/palestine ? JI7 Jun 2014 #58

Norway n/t Scootaloo Jun 2014 #128

so why is there no peace plan still and why settlements still going on ? JI7 Jun 2014 #130

I could explain for days Scootaloo Jun 2014 #131

I agree she made it an issue, but do you really thing Kerry would NOT have done what he did karynnj Jun 2014 #82

oh, i agree he would have, i just meant it as an example of what JI7 Jun 2014 #84

That was it Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #22

I think Hillary would make a fine President. yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2014 #4

Of course she can tularetom Jun 2014 #13

er umm... the Kochs funded the DLC, she was one of the members at the time. Dragonfli Jun 2014 #18

Not just a member... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #30

I forgot she was a founding member, I did remember Bill was Dragonfli Jun 2014 #41

But so far, the only election she has won was in New York State and for the Senate. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #57

Running against an unknown state senator from Long Island MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #123

Hillary Clinton was one of the first voices against the violence Peacetrain Jun 2014 #8

Yes, I think she went over there in 1996 OKNancy Jun 2014 #19

Last I heard, the Taliban is still abusing their women. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #61

Blame that on Hillary ? Sure why not......If one can not comprehend that Hillary Clinton has spent lumpy Jun 2014 #107

working for the best interests of bobduca Jun 2014 #138

Clever. Not. lumpy Jun 2014 #142

Good Heavens! Of course I don't blame that on Hillary. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #146

Why then point out that Afghanistan men, even now, don't give women their rights? lumpy Jun 2014 #153

Because the fact that Hillary supports women's rights in the third world is wonderful, JDPriestly Jun 2014 #157

The obvious one is she wanted universal health care before anyone else quinnox Jun 2014 #9

Bingo, bingo, bingo! Little Star Jun 2014 #24

Hillary was not politically savvy enough to get it passed. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #65

Do you think that political achievements of any kind are always possible? BootinUp Jun 2014 #106

Wow. Way to insult Ted Kennedy and Harry Truman, among many others. Proud Public Servant Jun 2014 #46

I believe that was a misstatement. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #49

How did she get it further along? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #67

Who got a plan further along than Clinton up to that time? wyldwolf Jun 2014 #70

LBJ got universal coverage for seniors. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #75

yes he did. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #77

What percentage of Americans would it have added to the insurance rolls? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #102

100% wyldwolf Jun 2014 #104

Please read a little more carefully. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #108

I have no idea. I don't have any quotes regarding the percentage without insurance in '93. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #110

Truman and LBJ HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #86

Truman and LBJ were PResidents at the time also, do you think TEd KEnnedy JI7 Jun 2014 #89

First, the statement was NO ONE got healthcare further than Hillary... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #156

Aha - I stand HALF corrected wyldwolf Jun 2014 #90

Correct, LBJ's Medicare plan only covered the elderly HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #155

But she was not politically competent enough to get it passed. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #63

Yes, she helped plant the seed for health care, awarenish for women's/human rights etc. lumpy Jun 2014 #114

Look if she does not face them now you can be sure they will come up in the general election. She jwirr Jun 2014 #11

The only positive would be to not run in 2016 bigwillq Jun 2014 #12

Not a clear positive because if she stays out, Cuomo will run. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #132

Cuomo is awful too. bigwillq Jun 2014 #135

She busted her ass in 1993 trying to get universal healthcare coverage in place. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #15

Bingo Little Star Jun 2014 #25

No one will win all battles, but she was not politically savvy enough to foresee the problems JDPriestly Jun 2014 #68

This will be the number one talking point in 2016. joshcryer Jun 2014 #16

Secretary Hillary Clinton's Historic Speech on LGBT Human Rights Zorra Jun 2014 #17

listy list list OKNancy Jun 2014 #20

I wouldn't call this a list of accomplishments. Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #23

The rating are not senate votes. Little Star Jun 2014 #26

I'm saying Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #27

I wouldn't even call the votes 'accomplishments' unless whatever she was voting on Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #33

Agreed Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #35

You have to admit pscot Jun 2014 #37

Yes. It's just the kind of list we might find in a book Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #38

On which issues did she introduce the bill into Congress. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #71

Here is a link to her positions on many different issues Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #136

Here are the positive things I read in that: JDPriestly Jun 2014 #144

Yep, looks easy to look for the negatives, Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #147

Warren saw the light. I'm waiting to hear Hillary's policy proposals on the economic issues JDPriestly Jun 2014 #148

Then there needs to be changes in Congressional members. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #152

She has done things that make her life already amazing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #21

I'll vote for just about any Democratic nominee. roamer65 Jun 2014 #31

Good luck on that Warpy Jun 2014 #34

I'll bite (and this is going to be long) wyldwolf Jun 2014 #39

Ha! You made all that up just to spite us here on HateHillaryUnderground.com! n/t zappaman Jun 2014 #40

LOL. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #42

That's the best list roundup I've seen on her. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #43

thanks, it was culled from many sources six years ago... wyldwolf Jun 2014 #44

Wages in America have barely risen in 30 years including while Clinton was president, JDPriestly Jun 2014 #95

Hear hear. lumpy Jun 2014 #100

Which would you consider to be her top three or so? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #45

hard to choose wyldwolf Jun 2014 #47

I thought SCHIP was Ted Kennedy's responsibility. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #72

Links wyldwolf Jun 2014 #76

According to those, her role was in getting stronger support from her husband MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #105

quote the passages that state that. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #115

Ok, I was somewhat wrong. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #117

The issues on that list do not deal with the economic crisis in our country. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #101

But what were her accomplishments? joshcryer Jun 2014 #50

You knew that was coming. Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #79

I played the game before. joshcryer Jun 2014 #81

THANK YOU. I support her but this list is more than I knew. nolabear Jun 2014 #53

OK... much better list than mine. OKNancy Jun 2014 #60

sure, thanks wyldwolf Jun 2014 #62

If she was against NAFTA and CAFTA then, why is she for the TPP now? starroute Jun 2014 #74

It's what is not on that long, long, detailed list that turns me off to a Hillary candidacy. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #91

ok, that's fair. So how about a list of Warren's accomplishments wyldwolf Jun 2014 #93

Thanks for the list. Hillary has proved to many of us that she has been a hard worker for lumpy Jun 2014 #99

While she was the Senator from New York, she led the charge against... bvar22 Jun 2014 #54

I particularly admire her courage under sniper fire. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #64

+1 leftstreet Jun 2014 #111

I love you, Manny, but she's still my second choice. If she gets the nod I will vote for her. marble falls Jun 2014 #66

She managed to remain a democratic candidate zentrum Jun 2014 #69

Well let's start from the beginning. zeemike Jun 2014 #73

Except she didn't wyldwolf Jun 2014 #80

She didn't cosponsor legislation to criminalize flag burning? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #113

that's not what zeemike said wyldwolf Jun 2014 #118

NY Times editorial: "Senator Clinton, in Pander Mode" MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #120

an editorial wyldwolf Jun 2014 #124

Oh, I suspect you'll never get enough of MineralMan Jun 2014 #83

She came in 2nd in the 2008 Democratic primary leftstreet Jun 2014 #85

Seems to me somebody starting a thread like this... ret5hd Jun 2014 #87

. randome Jun 2014 #96

I don't have any. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #109

Back in 1978-79, she turned $1,000 into $100,000 in the cattle future's market. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #88

I wish I could do that. wyldwolf Jun 2014 #97

Troll Level: WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #92

I know you dislike Hillary and that is your right but will you support her if she is the nominee? hrmjustin Jun 2014 #98

Good question. zappaman Jun 2014 #122

Probably. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #125

I would vote for Warren in a general. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #126

This place has become a farce. Beacool Jun 2014 #103

Maybe we could impose Beacool's Eleventh Commandment: Never criticize a Democrat. Scuba Jun 2014 #158

What's been going on around here goes way beyond criticism of a Democrat. Beacool Jun 2014 #159

What goes on around here is exposing neo-cons who pretend to be Democrats. Why would you .... Scuba Jun 2014 #163

Copped a feel of great Kissinger. JEB Jun 2014 #127

She was trying to look Presidential? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #129

If that warm smile directed at repulsive war criminal Kissinger is genuine... JEB Jun 2014 #133

Most political leaders will shake hands with people they don't necessarily agree with, even lumpy Jun 2014 #145

I have too much respect for spit JEB Jun 2014 #151

*shudder* bobduca Jun 2014 #139

she radically changed our foreign policy in regards to gays dsc Jun 2014 #137

DU Rec. SixString Jun 2014 #143

Good at making DUers sound like T-Baggers LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #149

And apparently a lot of Duers don't have much respect for education and intelligence lumpy Jun 2014 #154

Thank you. Beacool Jun 2014 #160

Didn't she get re-elected to the Senate Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #161

Not only that, she was the first female senator from NY. Beacool Jun 2014 #162

No one is denying these facts Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #164