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Jamaal510

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90. Agreed.

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:37 PM

Jun 2014

"it suggests that when whites become the numerical minority, the power structure will shift. It won't ... and if history is to be a guide, we can expect a more oppressive racism ... I point to South Africa and Israel, as examples."

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18 Things White People Should Know/Do Before Discussing Racism [View all] gollygee Jun 2014 OP

#1: Stop telling white people what to know/do. SMC22307 Jun 2014 #1

I think the point is more that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #3

Thanks Erich, I'm here to learn not to quibble with the choir. saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #21

Why are you thanking Erich Bloodaxe for that response? gollygee Jun 2014 #37

oops, gollygee, to many screens opened...sorry, saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #41

A whole lot of white people need a whole lot of telling. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #5

I wonder how many years have racial discussions been stopped on DU because Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #26

The Republicans have been telling Southerners the Democrats are the Party of Black People.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #38

I do recall how hard the pundits were pushing with the meme that Democrats ARE Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #51

Some need help seeing their blind spots and ignorance. bettyellen Jun 2014 #7

Well thanks for that bit of staggering ignorance. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #12

so, you fail the colorblind point Kali Jun 2014 #15

What do you care about? Want to share with the rest of the class? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #19

yes, lets pretend that white people understand or experience racism similarly to POC La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #23

i agree on all three of your points Enrique Jun 2014 #29

How is anything written here about telling you what to do? underthematrix Jun 2014 #32

... Scootaloo Jun 2014 #76

I don't quite follow #12. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #2

That might be speculation based on the past gollygee Jun 2014 #4

But the folly in that is that it will shift, and thus nothing changes for the better Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #6

This is some kind of riddle gollygee Jun 2014 #33

I hope it isn't some version of "It's not racism, white people/Latinos just work harder!" nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #55

I'm old enough to remember when the racists were claiming Italians weren't really "white". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #39

Many of these actually make sense, which is unusual for this sort of list. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #8

I actually agree that the term "reverse racism" is "BS". Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #10

Yes, absolutely. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #16

Actually, no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #40

No, racism has nothing whatsoever to do with power, they're completely orthogonal concepts. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #44

Ah, deja vu. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #48

Quite possibly. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #50

Well, black people with whom I've worked take the prejudice + power definition; they all agree. So, ancianita Jun 2014 #53

Of course I am (assuming that you accurately describe their views). Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #56

Heh heh. The oppressed get to define the terms of their oppression. Opposing that is to be on the ancianita Jun 2014 #57

I agree with you! JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #59

... ancianita Jun 2014 #64

Hey DIR! JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #58

I, meanwhile, will stick with the lexicographers. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #60

Because the lexicographer definition 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #72

What about all the social scientists that disagree with you. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #71

So scientists don't get to 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #70

yep...that's him noiretextatique Jun 2014 #79

Just about every Post- Civil Rights era .. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #68

Wow, now you're adding disclaimers about racial discrimination too! bettyellen Jun 2014 #89

It's not BS for the reason you think. It's bs because prejudice is prejudice when coming from any ancianita Jun 2014 #54

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #73

Exactly! Any group -- let's say, fraternity hazing that singles out a race, or cops who profile or ancianita Jun 2014 #85

11 is dangerous nonsense? gollygee Jun 2014 #35

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #42

I'm concerned about #2; my kids have friends of several races, and don't appear to care about color. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #9

No, you just have to remind them that other people aren't. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #13

Bravo JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #61

i think you need to understand what colorblind policies mean to POC La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #24

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #65

More and more kids today... Scratchem Jun 2014 #62

Can we discuss it honestly without needing a list? LittleBlue Jun 2014 #11

"Honest" is no substitute for "correct". N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #14

"Correct" sounds like an attempt to end discussion before it begins LittleBlue Jun 2014 #17

Yes, it's essentially an attempt to end discussion; that's what "discussion" *is*! Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #18

Actually JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #63

The thought is that gollygee Jun 2014 #28

You explained it very well. Thank you. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #66

Things White People Should Know/Do Before Discussing "American" Racism AlbertCat Jun 2014 #20

Racism in Asia Rebubula Jun 2014 #27

What do you mean we are not the worst? FrodosPet Jun 2014 #84

This is obviously for an American audience. gollygee Jun 2014 #31

I know, huh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #86

We don't get to leave it dirty because someone else has dirty laundry of their own. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #92

Only 18 ? Bonx Jun 2014 #22

Isn't this racism? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #25

Don't miss this one. wryter2000 Jun 2014 #30

i'm sure these are all reasonable points Enrique Jun 2014 #34

So you don't disagree with it gollygee Jun 2014 #36

Don't judge a book by it's cover smallcat88 Jun 2014 #43

Because your point wouldnt have been the same iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #45

Is there some reason this one particular OP should have Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #82

Well I for one am feeling a little more encouraged. FreedRadical Jun 2014 #46

Reading the comments thus far, I think he missed a point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #47

You just said a mouthful right there. Amen. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #49

defensiveness is inevitable Enrique Jun 2014 #52

defensiveness is not inevitable noiretextatique Jun 2014 #81

+2 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #67

Does it really where anyone starts with their position? LittleBlue Jun 2014 #69

amen noiretextatique Jun 2014 #80

Thanks for posting this. bravenak Jun 2014 #74

Two comments: Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #75

Great book ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #87

Agreed. Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #90

I'll add another Warpy Jun 2014 #77

When I try to link to it, I just see a web page that's black. What gives? nt raccoon Jun 2014 #78

Well, it loads slowly, for one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #83

This is some old video from a lesson taught by a teacher in the form of an experiment. Skidmore Jun 2014 #88

I had a recent experience that was not good nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #91