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nadinbrzezinski

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91. I had a recent experience that was not good

Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:45 PM

Jun 2014

lets just say it is part of the problem. And that would be number 19

Understand that racism is not just limited to black people. And yes, there is a level of reverse racism, and while understandable when I am told that I am part of the oppressive majority when I quality as two different minorities, is the height of irony. I am both Hispanic (immigrant from Mexico) and Jewish.

I am willing to work to end racism, in all it's forms. But I would have an issue sitting across the table from that particular individual, and for good reasons. Lets just say her comments ended any chances I would ever have of working with her.

And since some of the stories I cover involve going to areas of the County where shall we say we have a few skin heads, I do not wear my religion on my sleeve either. Not that I am very observant, but these folks would make me realize I cannot escape that ethnicity, especially my local neo nazis.

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18 Things White People Should Know/Do Before Discussing Racism [View all] gollygee Jun 2014 OP

#1: Stop telling white people what to know/do. SMC22307 Jun 2014 #1

I think the point is more that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #3

Thanks Erich, I'm here to learn not to quibble with the choir. saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #21

Why are you thanking Erich Bloodaxe for that response? gollygee Jun 2014 #37

oops, gollygee, to many screens opened...sorry, saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #41

A whole lot of white people need a whole lot of telling. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #5

I wonder how many years have racial discussions been stopped on DU because Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #26

The Republicans have been telling Southerners the Democrats are the Party of Black People.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #38

I do recall how hard the pundits were pushing with the meme that Democrats ARE Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #51

Some need help seeing their blind spots and ignorance. bettyellen Jun 2014 #7

Well thanks for that bit of staggering ignorance. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #12

so, you fail the colorblind point Kali Jun 2014 #15

What do you care about? Want to share with the rest of the class? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #19

yes, lets pretend that white people understand or experience racism similarly to POC La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #23

i agree on all three of your points Enrique Jun 2014 #29

How is anything written here about telling you what to do? underthematrix Jun 2014 #32

... Scootaloo Jun 2014 #76

I don't quite follow #12. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #2

That might be speculation based on the past gollygee Jun 2014 #4

But the folly in that is that it will shift, and thus nothing changes for the better Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #6

This is some kind of riddle gollygee Jun 2014 #33

I hope it isn't some version of "It's not racism, white people/Latinos just work harder!" nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #55

I'm old enough to remember when the racists were claiming Italians weren't really "white". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #39

Many of these actually make sense, which is unusual for this sort of list. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #8

I actually agree that the term "reverse racism" is "BS". Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #10

Yes, absolutely. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #16

Actually, no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #40

No, racism has nothing whatsoever to do with power, they're completely orthogonal concepts. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #44

Ah, deja vu. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #48

Quite possibly. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #50

Well, black people with whom I've worked take the prejudice + power definition; they all agree. So, ancianita Jun 2014 #53

Of course I am (assuming that you accurately describe their views). Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #56

Heh heh. The oppressed get to define the terms of their oppression. Opposing that is to be on the ancianita Jun 2014 #57

I agree with you! JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #59

... ancianita Jun 2014 #64

Hey DIR! JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #58

I, meanwhile, will stick with the lexicographers. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #60

Because the lexicographer definition 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #72

What about all the social scientists that disagree with you. eom 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #71

So scientists don't get to 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #70

yep...that's him noiretextatique Jun 2014 #79

Just about every Post- Civil Rights era .. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #68

Wow, now you're adding disclaimers about racial discrimination too! bettyellen Jun 2014 #89

It's not BS for the reason you think. It's bs because prejudice is prejudice when coming from any ancianita Jun 2014 #54

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #73

Exactly! Any group -- let's say, fraternity hazing that singles out a race, or cops who profile or ancianita Jun 2014 #85

11 is dangerous nonsense? gollygee Jun 2014 #35

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #42

I'm concerned about #2; my kids have friends of several races, and don't appear to care about color. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #9

No, you just have to remind them that other people aren't. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #13

Bravo JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #61

i think you need to understand what colorblind policies mean to POC La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #24

+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #65

More and more kids today... Scratchem Jun 2014 #62

Can we discuss it honestly without needing a list? LittleBlue Jun 2014 #11

"Honest" is no substitute for "correct". N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #14

"Correct" sounds like an attempt to end discussion before it begins LittleBlue Jun 2014 #17

Yes, it's essentially an attempt to end discussion; that's what "discussion" *is*! Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #18

Actually JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #63

The thought is that gollygee Jun 2014 #28

You explained it very well. Thank you. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #66

Things White People Should Know/Do Before Discussing "American" Racism AlbertCat Jun 2014 #20

Racism in Asia Rebubula Jun 2014 #27

What do you mean we are not the worst? FrodosPet Jun 2014 #84

This is obviously for an American audience. gollygee Jun 2014 #31

I know, huh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #86

We don't get to leave it dirty because someone else has dirty laundry of their own. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #92

Only 18 ? Bonx Jun 2014 #22

Isn't this racism? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #25

Don't miss this one. wryter2000 Jun 2014 #30

i'm sure these are all reasonable points Enrique Jun 2014 #34

So you don't disagree with it gollygee Jun 2014 #36

Don't judge a book by it's cover smallcat88 Jun 2014 #43

Because your point wouldnt have been the same iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #45

Is there some reason this one particular OP should have Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #82

Well I for one am feeling a little more encouraged. FreedRadical Jun 2014 #46

Reading the comments thus far, I think he missed a point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #47

You just said a mouthful right there. Amen. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #49

defensiveness is inevitable Enrique Jun 2014 #52

defensiveness is not inevitable noiretextatique Jun 2014 #81

+2 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #67

Does it really where anyone starts with their position? LittleBlue Jun 2014 #69

amen noiretextatique Jun 2014 #80

Thanks for posting this. bravenak Jun 2014 #74

Two comments: Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #75

Great book ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #87

Agreed. Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #90

I'll add another Warpy Jun 2014 #77

When I try to link to it, I just see a web page that's black. What gives? nt raccoon Jun 2014 #78

Well, it loads slowly, for one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #83

This is some old video from a lesson taught by a teacher in the form of an experiment. Skidmore Jun 2014 #88

I had a recent experience that was not good nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #91