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pipoman

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64. If you can't take time to study the volumes of established

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:21 AM

Jun 2014

Precedent setting, binding case law that has established perimeters and defined the second amendment then you shouldn't try to dream up solutions to anything. Anyone who would make such a demonstrably false, or ridiculously simplistic statement such as this:

"Gun control laws are constitutional."

truly hasn't a clue.

Now, how about getting specific? What new gun control laws are you proclaiming to be constitutional? We aren't talking about the thousands already on the books, nobody in their right mind would state that, 'no gun laws are constitutional', and nobody has made such a silly statement here.

Oh, and almost every ridiculous statement/suggestion you made in your post #14 is provably constitutionally impossible. .asked and answered at least 80 years ago and irreversibly established. ..even the most ignorant of gun control fanatic legislators would acknowledge the complete futility of even suggesting such silliness.

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That last paragraph is both depressing and unsurprising. The NRA is definitely killing our children. LonePirate Jun 2014 #7

So when some gangster shoots another gangster Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #10

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Where do I argue against regulation? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #20

Nice derail intaglio Jun 2014 #21

My argument is not against regulation Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #25

Yeah, and the moon is made of green cheese n/t intaglio Jun 2014 #28

Wow. Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #29

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Awwww Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #52

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I think I understand your point Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #26

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Maybe. That's true. Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #49

there you go, post away on this topic CreekDog Jun 2014 #50

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Do they mean murdered or killed? Scratchem Jun 2014 #2

Dead is dead. Is the terminology really that important. Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #9

If dead is dead, then let's go after the real problem metalbot Jun 2014 #19

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Swimming pool control LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #35

So 18 and 19 year old adult criminals blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #33

Any evidence these children are "adult criminals"? intaglio Jun 2014 #36

More evidence than they are "children". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #38

So edit your post intaglio Jun 2014 #39

18 and 19 are "adults", not "adolescents". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #41

In your world intaglio Jun 2014 #42

In any world 18 and 19 are adults not adolescents. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #44

The ad hom was saying they were all criminals intaglio Jun 2014 #45

Never said they were all criminals. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #46

Quote from the title of your post intaglio Jun 2014 #47

No, that is just poor reading comprehension on your part. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #69

No your implication was clear and deliberate intaglio Jun 2014 #70

Well, not MY implication. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #71

But it was the characterisation criminal I was objecting to intaglio Jun 2014 #78

That would bring us back to your misreading of the post #33. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #79

Stop lying, that was not the wording used intaglio Jun 2014 #80

And now you have misread my post #79. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #81

Nope. Nice try but nope intaglio Jun 2014 #82

Since you are the only one confused by this, ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #83

Did you read the article? I don't see any mention of 18 and 19 year old adult criminals. Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #37

I read "kids aged 0-19" blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #43

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What's the actual question? Scratchem Jun 2014 #34

WTF is the difference ... the loss of life due to guns is the issue etherealtruth Jun 2014 #72

Is there any other groups that have a message for children pipoman Jun 2014 #3

yeah it is just like that dsc Jun 2014 #4

The point is, the US isn't going to amend the constitution pipoman Jun 2014 #12

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Universal background checks. CSStrowbridge Jun 2014 #59

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I am in favor of a UBC law. Jenoch Jun 2014 #65

What new group are you suggesting should be prohibited? pipoman Jun 2014 #56

There is no "fire in a crowded theater" amendment. What makes you think reasonable, Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #18

Years of studying the issue and the case law around it.. pipoman Jun 2014 #55

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I'm saying that control fanatics are as dumb as their ideas pipoman Jun 2014 #54

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As soon as the same is applied to everything pipoman Jun 2014 #53

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If you can't take time to study the volumes of established pipoman Jun 2014 #64

Yet another terrible hide, above. beevul Jun 2014 #73

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