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Kelvin Mace

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16. Jury verdicts are overturned all the time

Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:42 PM

Jun 2014

That is *if* they convict.

Again, the question is not what the jury will do, the question is what will the NRA do? The NRA talks a lot about "responsible gun owners" but they never seem to want gun owners punished for anything, regardless of how irresponsibly they act.

Also, as I stated, we are FBI agents and ALL FBI shootings are deemed justified. So, the NRA must now protect "responsible gun owners" from any liability from the"legal" use of a firearm.

But, I can simplify the scenario if you wish. Only one person died. The guy with the CorpseMaker 50™. I killed him.

How can anyone claim I could not have "honestly and reasonably believed that the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent the imminent death of or imminent great bodily harm to myself or to another individual."? The guy walked into a restaurant brandishing a sniper rifle capable of killing a Mac truck. What am I supposed to do, wait until he actually shoots me or someone else before firing? Kind of late then. I am a "good guy with a gun" I have obligations to the 2nd Amendment.

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Riddle me this NRA... [View all] Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 OP

NRA's response... SummerSnow Jun 2014 #1

In war, combatants MUST wear uniforms dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #2

NRA types always care what multinational foreign governments have agreed to. IronLionZion Jun 2014 #4

So, my question to those people Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #9

Speaking of police states IronLionZion Jun 2014 #13

They seem REALLY "gung ho" Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #20

You're missing the point dickthegrouch Jun 2014 #44

The mere thought that they may be deprived of their liberty for any reason IronLionZion Jun 2014 #52

If only the waitress and waffle boy and toddler had guns IronLionZion Jun 2014 #3

You assumed "he was there to rob the place" NM_Birder Jun 2014 #5

Stand your ground is not " I'm allowed to kill anybody" Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #10

Add to your scenario, the idiot, I mean Patriot, with the rifle has it in a ready position.... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #12

Well, to me, Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #19

Not quite, a jury has to agree with your belief that you felt you were Lurks Often Jun 2014 #14

Jury verdicts are overturned all the time Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #16

Your entire premise is absurd Lurks Often Jun 2014 #17

The facts are: Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #18

your senario is not "absurd" NM_Birder Jun 2014 #63

Actually, you only have to convince one yahoo. Hoyt Jun 2014 #27

What was the law before 2006? hack89 Jun 2014 #58

"Gee" ...I'm always in awe of that, both argumentative, and childish at the same time. NM_Birder Jun 2014 #62

The NRA considers these peoples loss as a small price to pay for the gun nuts to carry and shoot liberal N proud Jun 2014 #6

NRA Science Department response underpants Jun 2014 #7

Hey! Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #11

NRA Science Department response underpants Jun 2014 #15

Jon Stewart ... napkinz Jun 2014 #8

The NRA's real response jmowreader Jun 2014 #21

I stand in awe... Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #22

Oh this needs a big fat kick! riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #23

Yeah, not getting much love Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #24

Wait just a minute, you asked what should the NRA do, I will tell you. randys1 Jun 2014 #26

Well, the Freedom Drone Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #33

This is the kind of comedic writing that DU needs more of! ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #25

Everybody who goes out in public Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #38

Potential situation, yes. Playout, no. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #55

A yahoo Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #60

Had that been the scenario, you might have be right. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #66

Sell more guns! shenmue Jun 2014 #28

So clever... aikoaiko Jun 2014 #29

Uh, I see photos all over the place of people Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #36

And yet these shoutout don't happen except in the minds of anti gunners aikoaiko Jun 2014 #39

It is not my "wish" Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #50

Luckily most gun owners and CCWers have better judgement than you Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #42

Again Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #49

Au contraire. Man's pistol goes off in the checkout line at Walmart riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #37

Not sure what that scenario has to do with OP or my reply aikoaiko Jun 2014 #40

This thread has made me realize... Llewlladdwr Jun 2014 #30

Yeah, but we never commit the violence Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #35

Maybe not with guns aikoaiko Jun 2014 #41

Right, since we are discussion gun laws Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #47

Barbara Lipscomb comes to mind. beevul Jun 2014 #45

You are correct Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #46

Yes, but shes a special case, she was Million Mom March organizer. beevul Jun 2014 #56

Again, make a list of "left wing anti-gun advocates who commit murder with a firearm" Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #59

Who said that? beevul Jun 2014 #65

Write to you in prison? hack89 Jun 2014 #31

As I pointed out in another post Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #34

Except courts have been adjudicating "reasonable" hack89 Jun 2014 #43

Yes, but the rules changed Kelvin Mace Jun 2014 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Jun 2014 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Jun 2014 #57

Nonsense hack89 Jun 2014 #61

Here's New York's relevant statues - please note we are NOT an "SYG" state. sir pball Jun 2014 #64

toon ... napkinz Jun 2014 #32

MOAR GUNZ! SwankyXomb Jun 2014 #53

Thankfully you don't own a firearm. dilby Jun 2014 #54