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Nye Bevan

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10. A better solution would be a smart alarm that detected breathing in a hot parked car.

Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:39 AM

Jun 2014

It should be possible to detect the changing CO2 concentration, along with the fact that the car is heating up and not running. Of course it would have to be some kind of very specific and identifiable alarm so people did not just ignore it.

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Father Charged with Murder in Death of Toddler Left in Car. [View all] RiffRandell Jun 2014 OP

Very sad yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #1

I was thinking the same. tosh Jun 2014 #8

A better solution would be a smart alarm that detected breathing in a hot parked car. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #10

I like this idea. surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #35

We need something for dogs too Politicalboi Jun 2014 #78

Even simpler would be a weight detector under the child seat jmowreader Jun 2014 #49

Another possibility: Orrex Jun 2014 #50

Another possibility.... peace13 Jun 2014 #63

That's also a good suggestion Orrex Jun 2014 #64

I agree, but don't know what the answer is. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #11

As awful as this was, it sounds like an accidental or at most negligent homicide. Tanuki Jun 2014 #2

I know. A tragedy all around. tosh Jun 2014 #5

All it takes is something to distract from a routine... JHB Jun 2014 #13

That was an excellent read. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #29

Sleep deprivation is a big part of it. Nothing wrecks your concentration faster Warpy Jun 2014 #76

An app for that would be nice. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #3

And I am not trying to diminish the pain of the situation, but an app would help busy parents... Tikki Jun 2014 #12

Or just putting something you'll be taking with you back with the child JHB Jun 2014 #19

absolutely... I don't know about men, but a woman would never leave a car without her purse renate Jun 2014 #87

I agree with you 100 percent yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #14

Already exist (as do non-app methods, as noted above) JHB Jun 2014 #20

Thank you yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #37

More. proverbialwisdom Jun 2014 #43

Another tragedy. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #96

I'll never understand how someone can forget their child is with them in the car. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #4

it could happen to anyone with a brain because brains aren't perfect. unblock Jun 2014 #24

I've seen news reports about it many times. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #25

Neither did many of the parents who've done it, until it happened to them. Gormy Cuss Jun 2014 #27

It really is sad for everyone involved. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #30

I did it. Granted, it was only for less than a minute, but I seriously, seriously forgot I even msanthrope Jun 2014 #68

"It was only for less than a minute," In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #69

I don't get it either TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #86

"Apparently, he forgot" becomes murder? Orsino Jun 2014 #6

Neglient homicide maybe 2nd Degree Murder avebury Jun 2014 #58

Yes. Bullshit. Orsino Jun 2014 #66

Looks like 3rd degree at the most, from a Georgia lawyer definition muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #74

We had an entire subset of DU rage against a Good Samaritan earlier this week Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #7

Well, get used to that subset. It ain't going nowhere. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #17

not the same thing at all and shame on you for attempting to make it so. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #18

How is it not? Neglect is neglect. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #39

Nothing happened and you don't know those kids IVoteDFL Jun 2014 #48

A few years ago a father left his child in his car in Broolyn Park and the child died. Jenoch Jun 2014 #60

you should be damn proud of yourself. and of your family renate Jun 2014 #88

+1 not the same at all lunasun Jun 2014 #40

If someone had seen the child in the car, I'm certain they would have. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #41

You know what? Sissyk Jun 2014 #46

I was just thinking of that. 840high Jun 2014 #53

Another subset is conspicuously quiet too Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #70

Yes it is davidpdx Jun 2014 #90

Not to minimize this, but... cilla4progress Jun 2014 #9

From the Consumer Reports article linked above csziggy Jun 2014 #56

Yep. cilla4progress Jun 2014 #75

so tragic. Any decent day care or school should start calling immediately for no shows. Sunlei Jun 2014 #15

This isn't the responsiblity of a day care kiva Jun 2014 #22

this is absolutely something all day care providers should do. unblock Jun 2014 #26

If daycares want to have this a part of their business, kiva Jun 2014 #38

i get reminders from doctors and dentists a couple days ahead of my appointment unblock Jun 2014 #44

no, any business taking care of living beings should always check on no shows. a kid is not a pizza Sunlei Jun 2014 #45

I was thinking of this too. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #34

Terrible incident similar to this one occurred here... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #16

I read an article once about a woman who was chatting on her cell phone and left tblue37 Jun 2014 #83

A tragic incident, but I think the DA way overcharged. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #21

I'm not trying to be argumentative, kiva Jun 2014 #31

I think the emotional guilt if it were a daycare worker and also purely accidental.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #36

+1. nt tblue37 Jun 2014 #85

You don't know what actually happened, do you? LisaL Jun 2014 #94

This isn't a case of felony murder. sinkingfeeling Jun 2014 #23

And you know this how? LisaL Jun 2014 #93

THINGS YOU CAN DO TO TRY TO AVOID THIS: unblock Jun 2014 #28

Excellent suggestions! theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #33

Terrific suggestions Orrex Jun 2014 #51

Excellent List BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #62

This would be my suggestion, too. phylny Jun 2014 #79

So very sad BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #80

The problem with the stuffed animal in the front seat is the same as the problem I have remembering tblue37 Jun 2014 #84

that's right. in a way it's amazing we don't lose more kids than we do. unblock Jun 2014 #91

'Felony murder?' I question this, elleng Jun 2014 #32

And reasoning like that is why so many are not avebury Jun 2014 #55

It appears not to have contained the prior planning elleng Jun 2014 #57

2nd Degree murder does not require prior planning. avebury Jun 2014 #59

I believe 2nd Degree murder does require intent, though. yellowcanine Jun 2014 #67

Agree. Where is the Mens Rea (the guilty mind)? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #81

Gene Weingarten's Pulitzer-Winning Feature, 'Fatal Distraction' Crabby Appleton Jun 2014 #42

wow -- that's quite a read fishwax Jun 2014 #73

This is just so sad. Sissyk Jun 2014 #47

you know a read a study about this, and it seems that while it is awful La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #52

But you know that avebury Jun 2014 #54

If He Accidently Shot His Child otohara Jun 2014 #61

How can it be "felony murder" if the account is correct? yellowcanine Jun 2014 #65

felony murder is when a death occurs in the commission of a felony -- so I guess the felony here is fishwax Jun 2014 #72

maybe daycares need to call the parents if a Child doesn't show up JI7 Jun 2014 #71

That could happen to a lot of people. You think it could never be you but you never know. brewens Jun 2014 #77

Yet when a parent leaves a loaded gun within the reach of a child, tblue37 Jun 2014 #82

There might be more to the story. LisaL Jun 2014 #92

Oh God. Such a heartbreaking story, every time this happens. Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #89

Absolutely horrifying ... for everyone etherealtruth Jun 2014 #95