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In reply to the discussion: Bullied Teen Stabs and kills tormentor [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)96. I have wondered about this a lot and wrote an article about it a few years back...
http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/12/13/repeated-harassment-is-not-bullying-its-stalking-lets-prosecute-it-that-way/
REPEATED HARASSMENT IS NOT BULLYING, ITS STALKING. LETS PROSECUTE IT THAT WAY.
When teens, preteens and children harass each other, even when that harassment rises to the level of utter cruelty and violence, we have this desire to give it a cutesy name that suggests the idea that this is just something that kids do. There is nothing cutesy about the repeated, willful and malicious following and/or harassing of another person. I use that description for this kind of behavior because it both fits what some people refer to as bullying and also is the most common description for stalking.
What we refer to as bullying is not a one-time act. If it were a one-time act, it would be mere simple assault and/or battery, or perhaps not a crime at all. No, the behavior we are really talking about when we refer to bullying or stalking is repeated and unwanted acts by one person or group against another person or group for the purpose of creating an ongoing climate of fear for the target person or group. There are many reasons a particular person or group can be singled out for harassment. It can be because the target person or group dresses a certain way, acts a certain way, is of a certain economic background, nationality, religion or ethnicity, or is perceived to be a member of the LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgendered) community.
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The purpose of rebranding this behavior to call it stalking is twofold. First, whatever the anti-stalking laws are called in each state, they should be used to stop anyone, including teens and even younger children, from making the lives of other people miserable and unbearable. There is no reason for this to be allowed to go on. No one has the right to treat anyone else this way. Second, as I alluded to in the opening paragraph, there is not enough of a negative connotation to the term bullying. Stalking, on the other hand, has a huge creep factor to it. No one wants to be labeled a stalker.
REPEATED HARASSMENT IS NOT BULLYING, ITS STALKING. LETS PROSECUTE IT THAT WAY.
When teens, preteens and children harass each other, even when that harassment rises to the level of utter cruelty and violence, we have this desire to give it a cutesy name that suggests the idea that this is just something that kids do. There is nothing cutesy about the repeated, willful and malicious following and/or harassing of another person. I use that description for this kind of behavior because it both fits what some people refer to as bullying and also is the most common description for stalking.
What we refer to as bullying is not a one-time act. If it were a one-time act, it would be mere simple assault and/or battery, or perhaps not a crime at all. No, the behavior we are really talking about when we refer to bullying or stalking is repeated and unwanted acts by one person or group against another person or group for the purpose of creating an ongoing climate of fear for the target person or group. There are many reasons a particular person or group can be singled out for harassment. It can be because the target person or group dresses a certain way, acts a certain way, is of a certain economic background, nationality, religion or ethnicity, or is perceived to be a member of the LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgendered) community.
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The purpose of rebranding this behavior to call it stalking is twofold. First, whatever the anti-stalking laws are called in each state, they should be used to stop anyone, including teens and even younger children, from making the lives of other people miserable and unbearable. There is no reason for this to be allowed to go on. No one has the right to treat anyone else this way. Second, as I alluded to in the opening paragraph, there is not enough of a negative connotation to the term bullying. Stalking, on the other hand, has a huge creep factor to it. No one wants to be labeled a stalker.
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Bullying needs to be brought under control to help stop future tragedies like this. n/t
RKP5637
Jun 2014
#13
It is murder. It is also self defense. But I wouldn't classify it as legally justified self defense.
ieoeja
Jun 2014
#51
You left out any reference to his self-defense, which comes from the OP's article:
pacalo
Jun 2014
#101
Yeah, there seems to be disagreement about whether Crump was one of the bullies.
Vattel
Jun 2014
#99
So are you saying that my mother's use of a handgun to stop her rape or murder ...
spin
Jun 2014
#39
Since you are "not making any assesment about the good or evil of a firearm" then ...
spin
Jun 2014
#70
Major thread hijack! I am all for gun control, but this is not a gun control thread. nt
tblue37
Jun 2014
#140
You are not taking the interpretation of knife seriously enough. All one needs to do is carry
MillennialDem
Jun 2014
#19
Could you get in trouble for carrying a pair of scissors in public? Yes. Is it likely if you are in
MillennialDem
Jun 2014
#43
Not to mention guns could be enforceably banned but knives never can be. There are
MillennialDem
Jun 2014
#11
Nice try on your part to call an obvious negligent discharge an accidental discharge caused by ...
spin
Jun 2014
#84
A good number of those who own firearms and practice gun safety would agree with me ...
spin
Jun 2014
#108
I did acknowledge that if the shooter did not have the weapon the incident would have never ...
spin
Jun 2014
#110
If that is the truth, you are correct. Very sad he felt there was no other way out.
NCTraveler
Jun 2014
#54
We need to recognize that those who witness bullying and do nothing are part of the problem.
KittyWampus
Jun 2014
#105
I have wondered about this a lot and wrote an article about it a few years back...
stevenleser
Jun 2014
#96
I saw another article about this in NY today that said the kid that was killed was an angel
Renew Deal
Jun 2014
#72
Sounds more like manslaughter than murder, if the allegations against the victim are true. n/t
nomorenomore08
Jun 2014
#93
So the NEIGHBORS SAW AND KNEW? They knew the kid was being abused and did nothing?
KittyWampus
Jun 2014
#104
KamaAina, I like you -- but with a fourteen year old dead and another being tried as an
fishwax
Jun 2014
#134
Whoa! It is more complicated than it seems. The kid with the knife had been recently
tblue37
Jun 2014
#142