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23. I haven't mistaken that at all
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:57 PM
Jun 2014

. . . you should find a reason to at least cringe when our government is consulting on the future leadership of Iraq with the man who was the original, unrepentant liar that Bush and others used to involve us in that invasion and overthrow in the first place with an admitted pack of lies.

It's not a question of whether we 'choose' their new leadership. We should have absolutely no influence in that decision, but it would be incredibly naive to believe we'd provide millions of dollars to the new regime and millions more in manpower and military equipment without manipulating the outcome.

It would concern me even if this report just mentioned that our State Dept. was just talking to some uncontroversial blokes who were pure as the driven snow. What the hell are they doing openly courting potential candidates while the U.S. president hints and urges a change in the Iraqi government while holding our military forces over their heads?

One of the most amazing abuses of power came when the Maliki regime came into being, with the invading and occupying forces posturing as if they were protecting the integrity of Iraqi democracy while pointing their weapons at the government's opposition; Maliki actively working on their disenfranchisement.

I get your point, we don't have any business in choosing their leader, but, neither do we have any business helping direct military attacks against the population while complaining about the need for political reconciliation. It's a self-defeating enterprise; just as it's always been since the days when Bush was encouraging regime change in Iraq behind the threat and exercise of our military.

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Surprised ? SamKnause Jun 2014 #1
I didn't realize the US got to choose Iraq's leader. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #2
I have no idea why American officials have anything to do with the makeup of the Iraqi govt. bigtree Jun 2014 #4
We always get the same characters Turbineguy Jun 2014 #3
The Crawling King Snake Returns WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #5
+1 bigtree Jun 2014 #6
are you fucking kidding? choie Jun 2014 #7
no kidding bigtree Jun 2014 #8
I didn't know he was still around...Thought he'd made enough money off us KoKo Jun 2014 #9
so much wrong about Iraq has been dismissed bigtree Jun 2014 #11
It's Like Deja Vu All Over Again.....nt global1 Jun 2014 #10
One by one I see the old ghosts rising bigtree Jun 2014 #12
Chalabi should have been hauled in.. KoKo Jun 2014 #14
I wanted to post this statement Pres. Obama just made, as a reflection of what I just posted bigtree Jun 2014 #15
It's the DOS doing it. Remember they are infested with... KoKo Jun 2014 #17
Holy Hell! nt Duppers Jun 2014 #13
kick bigtree Jun 2014 #16
kick bigtree Jun 2014 #18
Oh for fucks sake no Autumn Jun 2014 #19
yep bigtree Jun 2014 #20
I feel sick. No matter how we vote or who wins the same Autumn Jun 2014 #21
Autumn, we didn't elect an anti-war candidate bigtree Jun 2014 #25
bigtree, I trust Obama on most things but to see the same snakes Autumn Jun 2014 #27
I think you are not interpreting this correctly. DCBob Jun 2014 #22
I haven't mistaken that at all bigtree Jun 2014 #23
I wouldnt use the world "consulting".. I think its more like interviewing. DCBob Jun 2014 #24
We may be responsible but we have no ability to put Humpty Dumpy together again TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #36
Thank you for this important, albeit extremely distressing post. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #26
it's agonizingly predictable bigtree Jun 2014 #28
We are all trapped in the belly of the Beast that is the U.S. Imperial project/MIC - even Obama. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #30
Curveball wasn't available? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #29
K&R abelenkpe Jun 2014 #31
What happened to the whole idea of democracy and self determination? pa28 Jun 2014 #32
"Maybe Cheney will realize I'm a man Republicans can do business with" MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #33
? bigtree Jun 2014 #34
"Chalabi is different now because Obama" whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #35
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