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Xyzse

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10. I agree that the individual mandate was a disaster from the beginning
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:55 PM
Apr 2012

However, it is currently what we have and is the lynch pin of the current system.
Without it, the other aspects of the bill will begin to unravel.

I disliked the passed bill, even from other sites, they know that I went off on it. However, be it as it may, I do not agree on repeal as there is nothing to replace it. When taken out, it will take another hundred or so years for Health Care to be looked at meaningfully.

I have excoriated Obama's position on Health Care as he took off the Public Option before he even fought for it.

Yes, I would like to have that part of the bill stricken off, however I have to be realistic about the alternatives. The idea of pre-existing conditions to be a reason for denial of coverage will come back, and the loss of coverage for younger individuals who receive it from their parents will be another blow.

The fact is, they are still in the Health Care system and if they don't get to pay in to this, the collective whole does when they end up in the ER.

As much as I don't like the Bill, I don't want the Supreme Court to rule on this yet until they actually know what the Bill does. Most of the bill has not rolled out yet, and it is wrong for the Supreme Court to look at it at this time when there has been no one affected by such a fee as of yet.

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I can dig it gratuitous Apr 2012 #1
Nixon started the EPA ... let's kill it!!!! JoePhilly Apr 2012 #2
Can't muster anything more substantive? Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #3
Why? Claiming that an idea is bad because the GOP suggested it first is no more substaintial. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #7
Riiiiight. It's a great idea that the Repukes just happened to come up with, and ran with until... Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #9
Pesky facts...nt SidDithers Apr 2012 #11
hey sid, i just found a SCTV Christmas special DVD. vaht? must havebeen an old roomates.. i'll take dionysus Apr 2012 #14
Good stuff... SidDithers Apr 2012 #15
It's a bad idea because it's a bad idea. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #13
The ACA let's "young people" stay on their parents plan until they are 26. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #23
If Nixon's EPA had been a mandate for the people to send money to the polluters, we should. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #5
The point of course ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #8
You're correct context does matter Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #12
And if they overturn ACA, the GOP will claim that is the precedent for claiming that JoePhilly Apr 2012 #24
To governmental non-profit agencies, that's an entirely different animal. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #26
That does not matter. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #29
That's not true, social security is "uniform" mandating the purchase Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #31
Of course it was. woo me with science Apr 2012 #4
Yes. It's a gift to the insurance companies. We knew that. aquart Apr 2012 #6
I agree that the individual mandate was a disaster from the beginning Xyzse Apr 2012 #10
YAY! Lets all divebomb the ER's and make someone else pay for it! FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #16
Thanks for trying. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #17
Hooray bipartisanship! nt OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #18
Here are ProSense Apr 2012 #19
I'm awake. progressoid Apr 2012 #20
I believe the repukes; at least those in power, are playing br-er rabbit, Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #22
Keep saying it! WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2012 #21
but now since the Democrats bought into it, all of a sudden it became a grand idea! quinnox Apr 2012 #25
This has been discussed here ad nauseam. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #27
Did they conceive of not allowing those with pre-existing conditions to be booted from insurance mzmolly Apr 2012 #28
Thank you for posting this ArcticFox Apr 2012 #30
I'm not worried abelenkpe Apr 2012 #32
Still on the fence davidthegnome Apr 2012 #33
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