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DeSwiss

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62. You realize that when you go into the public sphere.....
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jun 2014

...certain kinds of behaviors are permissible and some are not. We've even got laws dictating to each of us things like, how much we must wear and the parts of our bodies we must cover. Whether we can go around with a mask on or not. And even now in some places, it is illegal for more than 16 women to be in a house at one time or it is legally defined as a brothel. This was actually deemed a serious moral and ethical problem at one time that they made it into a law.

So we end up with all kinds of sensible and stupid ideas called laws, as a condition of living together within this culture and trying to carve out a space where each of us can live and feel safe and secure in our person, and to freely express ourselves, as is our right to.

Likewise, if I see a building with a sign that says XXX Inside! -- then I have a pretty good idea what to expect if I go in. Same applies if I see a link that say RUDE PUNDIT. I know what will be said within will be RUDE:

    RUDE {rood}
    adjective, rud·er, rud·est.

    1. discourteous or impolite, especially in a deliberate way: a rude reply.
    2. without culture, learning, or refinement: rude, illiterate peasants.
    3. rough in manners or behavior; unmannerly; uncouth.
    4. rough, harsh, or ungentle: rude hands.
    5. roughly wrought, built, or formed; of a crude construction or kind: a rude cottage.

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Now, when I go out in public and some guy is mouthing off and cursing, I'll either join in or leave. It all depends on context, see? A place like you describe with families and kids? I'd leave. A bar on the night of a favorite football team winning and a lot of cursing and hollering and lies about one's exploits, totally acceptable. It all depends.

You can't have off-the-rack free expression. It's always extemporaneous and free to roam wherever. That's what being FREE means. If you don't like that, that's okay too.

- So long as no one thinks they have the right to ruin or to curtail it for those who do......

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Well done. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #1
Nice story. Too bad it has nothing to do with ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #2
And yet, perhaps it does. MineralMan Jun 2014 #4
It doesn't tkmorris Jun 2014 #18
It absolutely does... FBaggins Jun 2014 #63
There's a difference between a forum thread and someone shouting in person NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #26
Indeed. Sometimes, though, a title includes the offensive MineralMan Jun 2014 #29
. stonecutter357 Jun 2014 #37
But when something is banned or hidden...that eliminates one of the choices. world wide wally Jun 2014 #52
Not on DU. Anyone can view a hidden post, with a single click. MineralMan Jun 2014 #53
Why say this? hrmjustin Jun 2014 #6
I've often found that if I'm unable to see a point, it's usually my own failing rather than someone LanternWaste Jun 2014 #9
I like your cleverly worded insults, at least 10 of them now towards me. ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #11
Awww... there, there... chervilant Jun 2014 #45
I don't need a hug. I'm not bothered, just amused. And I really do think ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #47
Cute kitteh n/t chervilant Jun 2014 #49
It's my 'Lectric Kitteh' ... and she is cute =) nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #51
Well, I see the connection deutsey Jun 2014 #16
I wouldn't click the button, actually. MineralMan Jun 2014 #21
Oh, I don't know... deutsey Jun 2014 #28
Indeed. The Alert and Jury option would have been nice, too, MineralMan Jun 2014 #30
I don't agree that it's an "insignificant thing". cheapdate Jun 2014 #40
Then, I suggest you vote to leave if you are on a jury MineralMan Jun 2014 #43
Yes, the fate of an alerted post is decided by a randomly selected jury. cheapdate Jun 2014 #55
I, too, see the connection Glitterati Jun 2014 #24
This whole episode has not went we'll for you, but keep doubling down! LOL! nt Logical Jun 2014 #41
I think it's been fun and I don't regret it at all. And my post ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #44
+1000 DeSwiss Jun 2014 #57
How dare you try and step all over that man's 1st amendment rights to be as ugly as he wants to be. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #3
I know. Rude of me, wasn't it? MineralMan Jun 2014 #5
Am I the only to notice that because the man had a certain amount of wealth he was allowed Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #13
Yes, that bothered me, too, after I talked to the owner, MineralMan Jun 2014 #17
I think this OP is a microcosm on the state of affairs in the USA and the world in general. - Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #20
Thanks. I'm glad you noticed my intent. MineralMan Jun 2014 #22
Did you have to click on him to hear his bilge, or were you exposed ... 11 Bravo Jun 2014 #25
Not even remotely in the same ballpark, but you knew that already. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #14
I really don't give a shit what RP writes. I don't read his crap. As someone before me has already Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #15
Of course you can comment on any thread you wish to. Who said you couldn't? bluesbassman Jun 2014 #27
of course, you're entitled heaven05 Jun 2014 #42
Well done sir! hrmjustin Jun 2014 #7
"Sometimes, being a "Delicate Flower" is not such a bad thing, I think." NCTraveler Jun 2014 #8
Well, I see what you're saying. MineralMan Jun 2014 #10
Understood and get it. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #12
Thank you. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #19
I'm also capable of blue-tinged language. MineralMan Jun 2014 #23
Yeah, going into the Army made me a real potty mouth too. Rozlee Jun 2014 #48
You know, when you're dictator, you can ban that kind of language. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #31
But, you see, I have no desire to be a dictator of any kind. MineralMan Jun 2014 #32
now they just open carry Skittles Jun 2014 #33
There is that issue, for sure. MineralMan Jun 2014 #34
Not surprising at all. NuclearDem Jun 2014 #58
Part of the problem is the actual language used. jeff47 Jun 2014 #35
My opinion of the phrase is irrelevant. MineralMan Jun 2014 #36
first amendment rights only apply to government. there are no private 1st amendment rights nt msongs Jun 2014 #38
That's absolutely correct. MineralMan Jun 2014 #46
K&R stonecutter357 Jun 2014 #39
Stay safe hangfire00 Jun 2014 #54
I'll assume you meant to reply to my original post with this. MineralMan Jun 2014 #60
K/r from another Delicate Flower. 840high Jun 2014 #50
Well, if I am eating and reading DU and something about it bothers me I stop reading DU and finish CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #56
Well, see, I didn't tell him to do anything. MineralMan Jun 2014 #59
Your actions were fine, I would also be inclined to approach the host/hostess and say something like yellowcanine Jun 2014 #61
Unfortunately, in this situation, the manager was also the bartender. MineralMan Jun 2014 #64
You realize that when you go into the public sphere..... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #62
The Rude Pundit can do whatever he chooses on MineralMan Jun 2014 #66
Rec'd for a good story. But I still don't agree with that jury. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #65
OK. Many people don't agree with that jury. MineralMan Jun 2014 #67
Understood. There is a need for limits and boundaries, however fuzzily defined. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #69
As far as I'm concerned, there is no "taterguy exception." MineralMan Jun 2014 #71
Gotcha. I would hate to see TRP lose his place on DU, but I understand the need for civility nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #72
Thanks for the post. noamnety Jun 2014 #68
Thanks. I know some who have left for that reason, too. MineralMan Jun 2014 #70
Well done. A story applicable to any number of public venues. Hekate Jun 2014 #73
Let's reimagine that story tkmorris Jun 2014 #74
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