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redqueen

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24. There really is no defense for it.

Fri Jun 20, 2014, 05:39 PM

Jun 2014

In the examples I've seen where TRP used racist slurs, he used them to demonstrate what hateful stupid rightwingers think.

When he's used misogynistic and homophobic insults, he's using them himself, about rightwingers. And we are agreeing if we support his use of those insults.

There's an argument to be made about the former. The latter is simply indefensible, full stop.

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Say whatever horrible word you want which expresses your terrible sentiment. [View all] Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 OP

Dinsdale dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #1

Interesting approach; that said, isn't the solution to offensive speech MORE speech? MADem Jun 2014 #2

What do you mean by "solution?" Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #3

I mean a resolution that would make ME smug, satisfied, and feeling as though the MADem Jun 2014 #12

Not "solution" so much as "counteraction" I suppose. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #14

No - the answer is to stop giving words power. dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #6

Well, that's not possible. Words often DO have power... MADem Jun 2014 #9

Oh stifle you big fat poopie head! whistler162 Jun 2014 #4

Mr. Clean Kingofalldems Jun 2014 #5

Feel whatever you want, just don't pretend other people must as well. Rex Jun 2014 #7

I'm not entirely certain what you're arguing here. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #15

I'm saying don't pretend you are the knower of all things. Rex Jun 2014 #18

I don't need to ask him what he meant because what he meant was transparently obvious. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #22

Thanks for making my point. Rex Jun 2014 #27

Very true that everyone draws the line a bit differently. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #16

Seriously, the self-righteous crowd here thinks they are owed beer and travel money. Rex Jun 2014 #20

+ a million Egnever Jun 2014 #39

Belgium. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #8

Piggishness should be used very sparingly frazzled Jun 2014 #10

I think the point is more that TRP (or his persona) *intends* to be disgusting and "piggish" nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #19

Yes, I know that; but it still gets boring and sometimes offensive frazzled Jun 2014 #23

I can understand and respect that view. As I said, everyone has to choose where to draw the line nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #25

But that might actually be the worst part. That he does bring so much to the table... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #30

I can't disagree with that at all. It's on him, ultimately, to draw his own line. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #32

There really is no defense for it. redqueen Jun 2014 #24

I think he has crossed the line at times, certainly. I don't blame people for being offended. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #28

+1. Well expressed, frazzled. brer cat Jun 2014 #21

How about horrible words for wonderful sentiment? Throd Jun 2014 #11

What sentiment would that be? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #13

I dunno. Just pointing out that the sentiment is judged "terrible" based on the words used. Throd Jun 2014 #17

Thinking Ann Coulter is a cunt, for instance, is not part and parcel to thinking she is wrong. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #26

Exactly. Insulting her ideas or her as a person isn't the same as gratuitously insulting her gender. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #29

Exactly. I would even argue that the two aren't really even compatible. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #34

verdict is in Go Vols Jun 2014 #31

So let's take a step back for a moment to identify a key difference here... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #36

Can I say Rush Limbaugh is a stupid, fat pillhead? Throd Jun 2014 #37

I think calling him fat or a pillhead is wrong because it does mock those people. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #38

Get a grip... DryHump Jun 2014 #33

Where is my joy? It's certainly not in using slurs against those I disagree with. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #35

Totalitarian? Where has anyone advocated outright censoring the guy? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #43

The rude pundit should be banned from DU! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #40

My wife's favorite word was "FUCK!" hobbit709 Jun 2014 #41

He's talking about slurs, not profanities. Though the line between the two isn't always set in stone nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #44

suckling pig nipples betsuni Jun 2014 #42