On common Core

[TheKentuckian]

67. That isn't what I said and I have never evah have suggested anyone listen to Orange and Smarm

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for any reason.

It sounds like you are stating the Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act do more harm than good to achieve something potentially laudable but dwarfed in benefit to harm done. I'm not willing to go that far, though I have ever stated that potentially this could be the case and as such did not support passage of the final bill but I will say I do see it very much like I do part D, a boondoggle that should not have been passed but I am unwilling to say either should be recinded until they are superceded by laws that provide the benefits without screwing the pooch seven ways until Sunday because lives are at stake and the benefits to alleviate pretty massive suffering and pain are in place.

So, yeah the logic can be said to be COMPARABLE but not the same at all. National standards are not pressing, life and death matters. I don't see any argument articulated saying that folks are going to die by the thousands and suffer by the millions without this benefit. I don't think these health care crisis situations are remotely compare able to national standard in education. Especially with what you are willing to trade to get there, I don't see how you could imply that there is any net benefit and I keep identifying deep net harms that you don't even argue with.

On this track, if you get your way there will be little left of education for most children with public education gutted and made a mockery of, virtually no effective organized labor, and lots of kids robbed of their futures other than as barely literate drones for low level work.

Cost to benefit ALWAYS applies, Nadine. I can see the arguments for health care (I also don't see the same magnitude of costs and harm from current for standards either) but not for this even though I agree in principle. National standards are not more important than education, they are a tool to enhance education and make sure the kid in Mississippi gets the same quality and depth of knowledge that the kid in Vermont gets. I don't see the value as as high as you seem to. Nice feature, not of overriding importance.