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cbayer

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73. Where do you see in the article that there were homeless staying in the building?

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:41 PM

Apr 2012

My reading is that the only people evicted were the OWS occupants who had plans to set up a program for the homeless. This was also the intention of the owners of the building.

The title is misleading, imo, and I don't think my reaction to it shows a lack of compassion, just attention to the facts of the story.

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Catholic Church Evicts Homeless [View all] lame54 Apr 2012 OP

In fairness, I'm pretty sure that's what Jesus would have done. Lucy Goosey Apr 2012 #1

Breaking and entering? When would he have done that? badtoworse Apr 2012 #7

Beats me. The moneychangers were glad to see him. nt raouldukelives Apr 2012 #17

OH SNAP nt sudopod Apr 2012 #51

Beat me to it. Kudos. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #57

The money changers was about respect for a house of worship. badtoworse Apr 2012 #71

It was just terrible how they carried that building off. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #86

If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. badtoworse Apr 2012 #100

Ah, well, as long as God says so. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #108

The Vision Of Christ That Thou Dost See -- William Blake Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #150

And Jesus wouldn't have let the homeless into the property? Really? Zalatix Apr 2012 #147

Asking for shelter and being refused is not the same as breaking in and being thrown out. badtoworse Apr 2012 #148

I'm sure Jesus would've been quite chuffed to learn that squatting is legal under ancient common-law Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #151

Maybe not but... lame54 Apr 2012 #31

ask the money changers got root Apr 2012 #140

How some can twist things around. The Diocese ordered the building cleared because they were demosincebirth Apr 2012 #2

Please provide a link for this. It is the first I am hearing about it. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2012 #3

No link. If you were watching the local evening news KGOTV in the Bay area you would have heard demosincebirth Apr 2012 #141

thanks for the proof... lame54 Apr 2012 #4

Actually, they are trying to lease it for $11,000 a month... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #20

and there it is... lame54 Apr 2012 #35

What amount should they try to lease it for in San Francisco? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #37

Sell a few of the Pope's hats and feed and shelter the homeless lame54 Apr 2012 #40

That does not answer the question. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #41

Here's your answer... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #47

To who? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #48

Why not try something innovative... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #78

I imagine it is a matter of liability. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #87

Catholic Charities in San Francisco are not allowed to have Catholic rules Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #137

Ahhh and there's the rub. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #142

No drugs or alcohol is a string? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #145

That is not what I'm talking about and I suspect you know that. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #149

Homeless? Try trespassers. badtoworse Apr 2012 #5

What do you call keeping a building vacant when the homeless are enduring sickness and cold EFerrari Apr 2012 #8

It doesn't matter what you call it. Breaking and entering is still illegal. badtoworse Apr 2012 #16

Just like Jesus wanted. sudopod Apr 2012 #52

We've been through this on another thread. badtoworse Apr 2012 #84

Ok, I guess? sudopod Apr 2012 #85

It's not about winning. We just see it differently. badtoworse Apr 2012 #106

The trouble that some folks see anything outside of the status quo as antagonizing. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #111

Catholic homeless shelter in San Francisco. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #88

Good thing there's only 65 homeless families in SF. sudopod Apr 2012 #91

And that's the only Catholic shelter? Where is the OWS equivalent? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #94

You are excellent at missing the point on purpose. sudopod Apr 2012 #96

Vacant or not, who does the liability fall to if someone's drunk dog bites someone in that building? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #99

Don't worry, they have lawyers. Maybe not as expensive ones as the Church. sudopod Apr 2012 #101

Lawyers don't transfer liability. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #102

Clearly you have the wrong lawyers. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #104

There is a reason why even the big corps have to settle when there is an injury in their stores. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #105

I guess OWS will get sued into oblivion. lol nt sudopod Apr 2012 #110

Sue who? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #112

? sudopod Apr 2012 #113

The parents and perhaps the hospital. My original question once again. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #117

I have this crazy idea sudopod Apr 2012 #120

Derelict? Not sure it is that. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #121

So why the mailed fist instead of the olive branch, eh? sudopod Apr 2012 #122

I imagine the first fist thrown was the b and e. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #125

Who knows? sudopod Apr 2012 #127

If that was the intent and if they building was in fact derelict. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #131

Not to mention several posters have told the story of what happened in Atlanta. sudopod Apr 2012 #97

Yes, it is and now they will have that on their consciences EFerrari Apr 2012 #64

Catholic homeless shelter in San Francisco. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #89

You know it was illegal to be a Jew in Nazi Germany. Cleita Apr 2012 #15

Where do these people come from? Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #58

Your corporate dictatorship appreciates your support mmonk Apr 2012 #143

OWS shouldn't have to respect private property? Why not? badtoworse Apr 2012 #144

Well, that's a shitty headline. Brickbat Apr 2012 #6

Agree. Not accurate and not the title of the linked article. cbayer Apr 2012 #9

It what way is it not accurate? unapatriciated Apr 2012 #70

Where do you see in the article that there were homeless staying in the building? cbayer Apr 2012 #73

Some of OWS members are part of the homeless. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #76

While I don't dispute that some OWS members are homeless, there just isn't cbayer Apr 2012 #77

Whatever... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #79

Didn't know of your personal relationship with OP and completely understand your cbayer Apr 2012 #81

his point and mine are that.. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #83

We also get into trouble when we jump to conclusions. EFerrari Apr 2012 #103

Good to know. None of this is included in the articles that I could find. cbayer Apr 2012 #115

I put one in #72. EFerrari Apr 2012 #124

Sounds like a great group and a great guy. cbayer Apr 2012 #128

That's my ex. He fronted all our events EFerrari Apr 2012 #132

A better headline: Catholic Church cares for homeless... lame54 Apr 2012 #11

Your thread headline is completely wrong. HappyMe Apr 2012 #10

I'm always up for a good correction... lame54 Apr 2012 #12

Catholic Church Evicts Occupy. HappyMe Apr 2012 #18

We went down to the... lame54 Apr 2012 #24

The article wasn't about the homeless in Atlanta. HappyMe Apr 2012 #27

you've said one thing right today... lame54 Apr 2012 #42

Your post is completely wrong. EFerrari Apr 2012 #109

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Apr 2012 #14

"Activists said they chose to take over the building because they believed it has been vacant... Brickbat Apr 2012 #19

The building has been vacant. It has been vacant for 18 months. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #21

So what if it is vacant? HappyMe Apr 2012 #23

I was specifically addressing this point that was made in the post to which I replied... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #26

So what? HappyMe Apr 2012 #30

Much as we may presume to know what their intentions are LanternWaste Apr 2012 #49

paint over it... lame54 Apr 2012 #28

"Alex, you'd better be drinking your water!" KamaAina Apr 2012 #33

extra points for fabricated headline. dionysus Apr 2012 #22

I could use extra points lame54 Apr 2012 #29

Do you guys have a listserv or something? nt sudopod Apr 2012 #54

Nah. Just the GD thread list. MineralMan Apr 2012 #63

uh, it's quite obvious from readingthe thread that a headline was fabricated... dionysus Apr 2012 #67

It's his opinion of what happened. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #69

What dog doesn't love tequila? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #25

Hmm...that title for your OP...could be better. MineralMan Apr 2012 #32

the actions of the church could be better... lame54 Apr 2012 #34

What would you like to see them do? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #36

Go away for good lame54 Apr 2012 #38

Not likely. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #39

... lame54 Apr 2012 #43

Probably so. MineralMan Apr 2012 #44

They certainly are making a lot of the graffiti... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #46

Yes. Well... MineralMan Apr 2012 #53

I think you should donate the paint... lame54 Apr 2012 #55

No, it's not cheap. MineralMan Apr 2012 #56

I call bullshit - We went down to the... lame54 Apr 2012 #59

You can call whatever you want. MineralMan Apr 2012 #60

that's good to know lame54 Apr 2012 #61

The restaurants in San Francisco are better than Stockton. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #66

You coudn't be more wrong. EFerrari Apr 2012 #72

Catholic homeless shelter in San Francisco. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #90

CTRL-V sudopod Apr 2012 #92

What does that even mean to you? EFerrari Apr 2012 #95

Sounds like a comprehensive facility. I would love to see a joint effort between the church and Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #98

For which the city pays them. In fiscal year 2008-2009, St. Josephs received Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #136

As Lame54 has stated in this thread before... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #74

This was about visibility for OWS, not helping the homeless. badtoworse Apr 2012 #75

No, that's wrong. See #72. nt EFerrari Apr 2012 #126

I imagine that's we should be asking of ourselves LanternWaste Apr 2012 #50

The church ask of others all the time. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #68

Republican jesus is a nasty fella. sarcasmo Apr 2012 #45

Well, to give credit where it's due the Church SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #62

Great pix bongbong Apr 2012 #65

They're leaving that vacant in San Francisco? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #93

Nah, but they are saving their pennies to buy this: sudopod Apr 2012 #123

Doesn't sound like the Catholic church owns it just yet. Sounds like they got the property for a Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #133

:3 nt sudopod Apr 2012 #135

Monstrosity... SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #138

lol, he's got a point there. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #139

OWS was set up to protest churches? Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #80

The Catholic Church is a huge landholder in San Francisco EFerrari Apr 2012 #114

How xtian of them...nt and-justice-for-all Apr 2012 #82

Hve you seen this at TruthOut? "Empty Buildings Are the Crime": EFerrari Apr 2012 #107

Wow. The "Get Off My Lawn" group TriMera Apr 2012 #116

""Get Off My Lawn"" sudopod Apr 2012 #118

Be my guest. TriMera Apr 2012 #119

You know what I wonder? West Side Crisis was the last hope EFerrari Apr 2012 #129

;_; sudopod Apr 2012 #130

I'm not doing much these days. EFerrari Apr 2012 #134

Catholic Church Evicts Homeless...? Zorra Apr 2012 #146

Since it's Easter Sunday, I figure a Gospel Verse might be appropriate. *aahahem* Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #152