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the_sly_pig

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16. About Senior living facilities...

Sat Jun 21, 2014, 02:11 AM

Jun 2014

There are those of which I am familiar that are not allowed to touch residents even to help them up after falling.

In our area they don't employ [trained] medical staff 24 hours per day.

They rely on taxpayer funded ambulance services for routine transports to hospitals.

These companies don't mind charging resident's $4,000.00+ per month, but also rely heavily on taxpayers for actual medical and transportation needs.

Just another corporate subsidy....

Finally, nobody can be told they cannot call 911, this event is a failure on multiple levels involving multiple individuals.

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Sickening! 22 yr old assisted living supervisor won't let staff call 911. 80 yr old patient dies. [View all] madfloridian Jun 2014 OP

She was certainly in the wrong, no question. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2014 #1

I assume they feared for their job. madfloridian Jun 2014 #3

The article doesn't state the ages of the employees Live and Learn Jun 2014 #11

There are so many questions that come to mind. blue neen Jun 2014 #2

Maybe it would cost the facility money, and she was under orders tblue37 Jun 2014 #74

Why does her age matter? dilby Jun 2014 #4

Judgment. madfloridian Jun 2014 #6

I'd add "empathy for the elderly" too XemaSab Jun 2014 #67

Yes, empathy is a very appropriate word. madfloridian Jun 2014 #69

training and experience magical thyme Jun 2014 #70

People with years of experience don't work in assisted living facilities. dilby Jun 2014 #77

I realize that. CNA jobs are generally minimum wage, or barely above it magical thyme Jun 2014 #79

they do in management positions. absolutely. cali Jun 2014 #99

If he had a history of migraine, maybe this would be more understandable. Warpy Jun 2014 #5

If I remembert correctly, there might be a drug that can avebury Jun 2014 #39

not a doctor, but i believe you're referring to tpa, which doesn't work for hemorrhagic strokes. unblock Jun 2014 #52

That drug is a clot buster Warpy Jun 2014 #71

The first thing I thought was: how the hell did a 22-yr-old get to be a Nay Jun 2014 #7

She wasn't just a superviser choie Jun 2014 #102

I was thinking she must be somebody's girlfriend. nt raccoon Jun 2014 #114

"Wouldn't LET them call 911"? WillowTree Jun 2014 #8

She was likely following written protocols Warpy Jun 2014 #10

I agree. madfloridian Jun 2014 #12

Exactly Shampoobra Jun 2014 #17

Having lost 2 grandparents in just 3 months, right before I turned 22, alp227 Jun 2014 #9

Sad blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #13

Does anyone know what the protocol is if a person has a DNR? pnwmom Jun 2014 #14

DNR does not mean do not treat alfie Jun 2014 #20

?? The guy was conscious and asked for care. Barack_America Jun 2014 #106

Yes, he was. It wasn't clear to me what happened after that. pnwmom Jun 2014 #108

The night staff at many facilities is often smaller and less experienced. No Vested Interest Jun 2014 #15

I am by far an expert yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #21

About Senior living facilities... the_sly_pig Jun 2014 #16

There appear to be 3 of these Grace Manor facilities in that town. madfloridian Jun 2014 #24

maybe Ms. Mobley's superiors had given her strict orders to not call 911 ? steve2470 Jun 2014 #18

From the article, it sounds like Mobley is changing her tune Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #19

Fox News now has a video and rundown about it. Staff and former staff agree... madfloridian Jun 2014 #25

NOBODY would ever tell ME not to call 911 in an emergency. Triana Jun 2014 #22

No, the real people to blame are the corporate dicks who decided it was OK to put a 22 year old Fla Dem Jun 2014 #41

I agree. Triana Jun 2014 #72

She was then promoted to exec director, same place. AJ ruled she was not qualified for position. madfloridian Jun 2014 #23

Did I read this right? vankuria Jun 2014 #27

You read it right. madfloridian Jun 2014 #51

Ok, thanks for the clarification vankuria Jun 2014 #53

There are some lax regulations. madfloridian Jun 2014 #54

Someone needs to start digging to find out Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #81

Of course ... she must have turned 23 so time for her promotion ... sunnystarr Jun 2014 #73

Her age is irrelevant here Generic Brad Jun 2014 #26

Attorney General said she was not qualified. madfloridian Jun 2014 #29

What makes you think that far too many Sissyk Jun 2014 #85

indeed TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #111

I agree with you. Sissyk Jun 2014 #115

I find it interesting that you focus on her age in such a negative way. bravenak Jun 2014 #28

Do I need to assume you want to start this battle all over again? madfloridian Jun 2014 #31

No. Just find it interesting. bravenak Jun 2014 #32

Read the OP with the bolded parts. madfloridian Jun 2014 #33

I will not be making any more statements about your op. bravenak Jun 2014 #34

And if you are going to post more about me in the AA forum, will I have the right to respond? madfloridian Jun 2014 #35

I will not be posting about you in AA unless you write another op trashing me.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #36

Would you link to that post? Or do you want me to do so? madfloridian Jun 2014 #37

Which post? bravenak Jun 2014 #40

Those posts are about racism. You said I was ageist. madfloridian Jun 2014 #42

You also implied i was a racist. bravenak Jun 2014 #44

If you continue I will link to your exact words. madfloridian Jun 2014 #46

I did not call you those names, you called me them.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #47

Since you have hijacked this thread to fight old battles.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #48

Oh my, are you threatening me? bravenak Jun 2014 #50

No, bravenak, it's not my world either. madfloridian Jun 2014 #63

Why wouldn't you be able to post in the AA forum? I dislike the suggestion that msanthrope Jun 2014 #78

... TBF Jun 2014 #57

Editing your OP doesn't help when you have TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #112

Regarding age vankuria Jun 2014 #55

Then the facility is at fault if they hired her for a position she was not qualified for. bravenak Jun 2014 #60

+100 Sissyk Jun 2014 #87

i think Age does Matter in this case just as it did when talking about old out of touch bigots JI7 Jun 2014 #96

I think you may have a point.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #103

Please note my edits to my OP. madfloridian Jun 2014 #30

No offense but how on earth does a 22 year old avebury Jun 2014 #38

Probably because they don't have to pay her as much BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #64

Yep, promoting her was the shocker. madfloridian Jun 2014 #76

Now Bay New 9 covering it. Making good points. madfloridian Jun 2014 #43

The judge should take a long look at her, ask her for her qualifications, degrees and certificates. Timez Squarez Jun 2014 #82

She has that 'deer in the headlights' look Stainless Jun 2014 #45

Age is relevant because lack of experience Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #49

I'd agree that lack of experience is the TBF Jun 2014 #59

It is crazy in that area - TBF Jun 2014 #56

The owners are definitely at fault for not giving her permission to call but I honestly do not think jwirr Jun 2014 #58

The staff did finally call before they really got permission. madfloridian Jun 2014 #62

I assumed it from the word Grace. All states have been moving the elderly and those with disability jwirr Jun 2014 #65

Administrative leave? Wow. She must know someone. She should be fired. ancianita Jun 2014 #61

Here is the problem, people use these places as stepping stones. dilby Jun 2014 #66

Don't I know it! Parasitic, incompetent bureaucrats with grinchy hearts who I'll never expose my ancianita Jun 2014 #95

Most of the women I talk to who work as CNA's dilby Jun 2014 #97

I would think vankuria Jun 2014 #104

A supervisor should have the experience and the confidence to buck protocols Karia Jun 2014 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #75

That doesn't make sense d_r Jun 2014 #80

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #83

WTF Skittles Jun 2014 #93

Message now hidden. alp227 Jun 2014 #100

it wasn't me who alerted Skittles Jun 2014 #105

i should've said that i alerted it. nt alp227 Jun 2014 #107

I think the real problem with the post is it was offered as THE reason Skittles Jun 2014 #113

Yes, it looks as if she is incompetent. Sissyk Jun 2014 #84

Actually in dealing with the elderly and ill...qualifications do matter. madfloridian Jun 2014 #89

I haven't seen anyone attacking you. I've seen people Sissyk Jun 2014 #90

K&R Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #86

No more than is going on in all the others. Sissyk Jun 2014 #88

Hawaii Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #92

I cannot believe you are saying that all other states would allow this kind of violation of rules jwirr Jun 2014 #94

Sorry, FLorida does have more it than many other states and cali Jun 2014 #101

My former mother-in-law (a sweetheart) yellerpup Jun 2014 #91

involuntary manslaughter might stick Doctor_J Jun 2014 #98

At 18 years old and no college degree, I would've had the common sense to call 911. phleshdef Jun 2014 #109

I discovered that nursing homes are absolute hell holes aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #110