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227. There is no such thing as 'best' from someone like Ron Paul.

Wed Dec 21, 2011, 04:58 AM

Dec 2011

Anyone who campaigns to abolish social safety nets and opposes government funding of healthcare is not a human being; it is a poisonous snake.

The best one can say about Ron Paul is that he is not quite as bad as his repulsive son.

It's true that a Democratic Congress might restrain the worst of a Republican president. But in Reagan's time, the House of Representatives was Democratic, and they only managed to restrain him to a limited extent.

How could a Paul presidency 'curb the worst in a Democratic Congress', given that even the worst of Democrats (and I would consider our David Cameron similar to a bad Democrat and I HATE him) is still much better than a MONSTER like Ron Paul?

Admittedly, all this doesn't just apply to Ron Paul but to all Republican candidates! But no one on DI implies that there are any virtues in the other Republicans or that they could restrain 'the worst' in a Democratic Congress.

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Dear Ron Paul Supporters [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 OP

Recommend and Kick Cerridwen Dec 2011 #1

The dumb fucks want to preserve the Constitution!! pocoloco Dec 2011 #90

And eliminate the EPA! And dismantle the social safety net! Martin Eden Dec 2011 #149

Feh kenfrequed Dec 2011 #155

Especially the part about a black man being worth 3/5 of a white man pnwmom Dec 2011 #173

They want the freedom to get high. nt Kahuna Dec 2011 #209

They are nothing but a bunch of also-Rands. MilesColtrane Dec 2011 #2

LOL. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #9

tee hee fishwax Dec 2011 #20

+1. nt MADem Dec 2011 #70

And you don't have to be an Aynstein to figure that out. Bucky Dec 2011 #81

+100 Richardo Dec 2011 #82

DUzy material. HappyMe Dec 2011 #91

Message deleted by the DU Administrators hyacinth house Dec 2011 #136

Tee hee right back at you: freshwest Dec 2011 #157

LOL green917 Dec 2011 #163

K&R - nt Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #3

FOR REAL! FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #4

K&R! And here is why we will NOT vote for Ron Paul Zalatix Dec 2011 #5

If this board has stickies DonCoquixote Dec 2011 #13

I agree but cause it doesn't it needs to be reposted often. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2011 #18

I have an anti-Ron Paul thread that needs more K&R right here: Zalatix Dec 2011 #74

Done/Recced! nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #261

+1,000 freshwest Dec 2011 #159

Thanks for posting this Bluzmann57 Dec 2011 #181

I'll second that Sky Masterson Dec 2011 #6

K&R I sure have seen quite a few Ron Paul threads today SunsetDreams Dec 2011 #7

Trolls promoting him perhaps? glinda Dec 2011 #58

Agree, and your post just got alerted... SidDithers Dec 2011 #77

Thank you for posting the jury results - You did good. siligut Dec 2011 #89

A unanimous "leave it alone." Trolls take note. yardwork Dec 2011 #154

Yes, they are definitely abusing the alert system, and the boards. freshwest Dec 2011 #162

Thanks for telling me. The jurors understood. Surprised I had to be juried. wow. glinda Dec 2011 #241

Well said! City Lights Dec 2011 #8

I must not have been paying attention sharp_stick Dec 2011 #10

garden gnome... one_voice Dec 2011 #11

Hold up. ellisonz Dec 2011 #66

LOLOLOL... one_voice Dec 2011 #117

Nah, no way, just put a Pixie Paul pic there. freshwest Dec 2011 #165

"I'm sick and tired of hearing that Ron Paul is a racist"... SidDithers Dec 2011 #14

They may not all be noobs sharp_stick Dec 2011 #16

You may be tired of it tblue Dec 2011 #24

It's not something that I said... SidDithers Dec 2011 #33

Oh excuse me. tblue Dec 2011 #192

Yikes frazzled Dec 2011 #179

noobs or moobs? CreekDog Dec 2011 #215

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so sorry you had to leave so soon, beady one. MH1 Dec 2011 #15

Wait. What? tblue Dec 2011 #22

Wow. Poof! and the post I replied to was gone! tblue Dec 2011 #23

The thing that surprises me sharp_stick Dec 2011 #27

me too. nt BootinUp Dec 2011 #31

Does somebody not know he's a REPUBLICAN? tblue Dec 2011 #32

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Well, the admins know. MADem Dec 2011 #72

I recognize the name. I think I alerted on 1 or 2 of its turds. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #42

good blm Dec 2011 #100

Message deleted by the DU Administrators hyacinth house Dec 2011 #131

If you mistake this place for an echo chamber, you're not paying attention. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #132

This thread is like a flytrap, huh? PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #133

Indeed. If ya wanna gather them all in one place, this technique sure works. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #180

funny how the usual flies show up Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #185

Message deleted by the DU Administrators hyacinth house Dec 2011 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #139

It puts the lotion on.... MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #125

Hmmm... 528 hz Dec 2011 #258

Anybody who spends more than 1 second on DU and comes away with the idea that we all agree on things stevenleser Dec 2011 #260

Godammit! WORD sista! Texasgal Dec 2011 #17

That is putting it mildly abelenkpe Dec 2011 #35

And not too bright! freshstart Dec 2011 #40

"...but we are NEVER going to vote for Ron Paul" unkachuck Dec 2011 #19

I haven't seen that spam, but HELL NO to Ron Paul! tblue Dec 2011 #21

With his bigoted ass! No way in hell!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2011 #25

Well I think I can agree with this post socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #26

IMO, the gimmick is dotymed Dec 2011 #88

"I am sure they are a candidate thing." Yep..... socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #92

I know, right ... TBF Dec 2011 #141

The Paul bots don't think that far ahead. freshwest Dec 2011 #166

They're about as bad as LaRouchies. nt Lisa0825 Dec 2011 #28

Ugh. Muskypundit Dec 2011 #30

Yeah, but the LaRouchies are too fucking clueless to accomplish anything Kennah Dec 2011 #50

Amen to that derby378 Dec 2011 #29

+1000 nt abelenkpe Dec 2011 #34

You tell it! Matariki Dec 2011 #36

I don't. I hope he whips up enough interest to run as an Independent or Libertarian TalkingDog Dec 2011 #37

Yes, that might be even better. Matariki Dec 2011 #54

That's not going to happen Galraedia Dec 2011 #216

a plebe can dream..... TalkingDog Dec 2011 #217

In our guts, we know he's nuts. Really. really nuts. mikekohr Dec 2011 #38

That one works better on Paul than it ever did on Goldwater in '64. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #44

K&R T S Justly Dec 2011 #39

thank you. Lefta Dissenter Dec 2011 #41

So, we're a bunch of close-minded spoiled brats that say they cannot ... webDude Dec 2011 #43

We all know Ron Paul. Nothing to learn. Just a crazy old man. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #45

Stopped clocks and all Kennah Dec 2011 #51

Blind pigs and acorns socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #93

There are DEMOCRATS who support all those things, NYC Liberal Dec 2011 #53

Please name them SixthSense Dec 2011 #85

Nobody is saying the Democrats in general are as progressive as we might like Ratty Dec 2011 #116

because those two are not running for President SixthSense Dec 2011 #127

Oh no. Not the list Ratty Dec 2011 #150

This is why SixthSense Dec 2011 #177

We cannot learn anything from people who consider that welfare is theft, and that just because LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #67

More regulation vs. no regulation. redqueen Dec 2011 #118

Yeppers. Didnt no regulation Charlemagne Dec 2011 #191

Hmmmmm, freshstart Dec 2011 #83

and... green917 Dec 2011 #167

Question, not an endorsement Charlemagne Dec 2011 #193

I guess because of Citizens United freshstart Dec 2011 #230

That's a very valid question green917 Dec 2011 #238

Ah, yes, the tired old Libertarian saw of musette_sf Dec 2011 #170

exactly.... Charlemagne Dec 2011 #195

Why do so many libertarians use the word "Statist"? HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #212

No reason to learn anything from racists and misogynists. pnwmom Dec 2011 #174

Wait, what I miss? mrs_p Dec 2011 #46

actually there have been several single-digit posters pushing Ron Paul in the past 24-48 hours Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #63

Some of them are the same person. GoCubsGo Dec 2011 #73

Birchers + Heaven's Gate + Ezra Pound's conspiracies + wannabe Perot MisterP Dec 2011 #47

For real. ellisonz Dec 2011 #48

As much as I admire Paul's stance on ending the Drug War and bringing all troops home slay Dec 2011 #49

yeah. thats the reason ron paul is not the solution La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #56

Thank you. Major Hogwash Dec 2011 #52

welcome La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #55

We might vote for him in a primary... that can only add to the fun. paulkienitz Dec 2011 #57

I have friends who say that too Charlemagne Dec 2011 #198

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Paul wants to hurt Americans ! He's horrible !!! urbuddha Dec 2011 #60

don't think he *wants* to-- that is your spin. spooked911 Dec 2011 #76

Ron Paul is a True Believer in a strange faith paulkienitz Dec 2011 #164

I can understand how a young person could be taken in by Ron Paul Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #61

"he makes more sense than the leadership of either major party" redqueen Dec 2011 #121

I agree with that assessment TBF Dec 2011 #146

Some of my friends back in the day (im 29....Yikes) Charlemagne Dec 2011 #199

Do people really think that once the rich form their monopolies that they wont form a dictatorship.. Hart2008 Dec 2011 #223

Ron Paul will never get my vote. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #62

Shitty on women's rights, shittier on LGBT rights, economic Reaganite Darwinian to the core . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #64

kr Norrin Radd Dec 2011 #65

Anyone stupid enough to admit to following a psychopath like Ayn Rand wil Never, Ever get my vote.n/ fasttense Dec 2011 #68

Amen ! nt steve2470 Dec 2011 #69

Agreed Mr Dixon Dec 2011 #71

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Ron Paul is certainly no advocate of civil liberties for women, homosexuals or minorities. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #79

"Anyone who thinks he is an advocate of civil liberties... redqueen Dec 2011 #123

Hmm..... Charlemagne Dec 2011 #201

where is this spamming and why haven't they come to this thread? spooked911 Dec 2011 #78

They've been all over the board, including a couple in this thread. Hint: they've been hidden and PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #80

spooked911, TBF Dec 2011 #87

Whoa! Charlemagne Dec 2011 #202

It's under the activism group - TBF Dec 2011 #225

Exactly. OP = 100% Straw Man. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #94

Not if you're one of the people tasked with taking the trash out, it's not. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #97

Link or it didn't happen. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #98

There are three posts hidden right here in this thread. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #99

It happened - TBF Dec 2011 #148

Dude, you mad bro Charlemagne Dec 2011 #204

lol La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #240

Ditto that. The man is a lunatic. It just ain't gonna happen. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #84

Amen guitar man Dec 2011 #86

A LOT of people support the Status Quo, so of course it's threatening to see it disrupted. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #95

i dont think RP threatens the status quo at all La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #101

Ron Paul *is* the status quo in sheep's clothing. He is a Republican tool. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #102

I don't think so. I think Obama REALLY wants to face Mitt in the GE. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #108

I see. And you? It appears you'd prefer he face Paul? PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #110

I think a Paul candidacy would force Obama to "triangulate" back to the Left on many issues. Romulox Dec 2011 #111

You make a point, but I digress back to the OP - Paul spammers should spew their crap elsewhere. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #112

I don't see how he would LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #243

On the issues of overseas war and domestic civil liberties, Paul is far to the LEFT of Obama. Romulox Dec 2011 #245

He is not pro-civil-liberties; he is anti-federal-government LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #256

Exactly right. I'd much rather be in prison than jobless/homeless and starving on the street stevenleser Dec 2011 #262

A lot of people will never accept his racism. This is the guy who said that 95% of black men pnwmom Dec 2011 #175

Do you consider a social safety net, basic consumer protection, and healthcare as 'the status quo'? LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #242

I appreciate that it may look that way from Britain, but the President isn't Romulox Dec 2011 #244

Between having far too little of these necessities, and having them destroyed altogether LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #257

Why would any true progressive vote for that blowhard? Stuckinthebush Dec 2011 #96

I was saying that back in '08 Blue_Tires Dec 2011 #103

thanks La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #105

+1 Charlemagne Dec 2011 #205

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Like Paul, he is a Republican. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #107

I'm voting ru paul!!! Javaman Dec 2011 #106

That's a debate I would love to watch! green917 Dec 2011 #171

I'd like to see RuPaul debate musette_sf Dec 2011 #176

LMAO! green917 Dec 2011 #178

Being unable to type with one hand they are unable to respond. grantcart Dec 2011 #109

I would like Ron Paul to be the Repuke nominee for 2012, if only because coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #113

You have to be insane, or super high, to vote for Ron Paul. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #114

I'm thinking most are of the former, especially Democratic people who like him. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #143

HIgh won't do it. You want Steve Martin's "Get SMALL" drug. saras Dec 2011 #152

LOL JoePhilly Dec 2011 #172

K&R!!!!!!!! redqueen Dec 2011 #115

Just as Pat Buchanan was right about the damage caused by offshoring jobs Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #119

Perfect = your last sentence. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #147

By the way, I can remember 2004, when there were people spamming the board with suggestions Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #120

i do too. it was ridic. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #124

I could see that ticket Charlemagne Dec 2011 #207

Yes, that isnt as bad as it sounds. The VPOTUS is a very weak position. Its a good calculation... stevenleser Dec 2011 #263

K&R. He's a freak show. n/t myrna minx Dec 2011 #122

I like to hear from the Paulistas for 3 main reasons. Texas Lawyer Dec 2011 #126

i like your arguments but i still think paulites should lay off du La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #128

They can go sell their snake oil over there --> PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #129

I sure the hell ain't! Taverner Dec 2011 #135

Huge K&R! Ron Paul supporters: Please, get a life... Zorra Dec 2011 #137

+1 freshwest Dec 2011 #218

Got that right! K & R! mother earth Dec 2011 #138

I wish Paul--or any Republican candidate--weren't an evil, dangerous asshole. Orsino Dec 2011 #140

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i am talking about du'ers, not random RP trolls La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #144

We won't be given the opportunity (if you want to call it that) to vote for Ron Paul... Beam Me Up Dec 2011 #145

R.P. has about three good ideas.... Hulk Dec 2011 #151

So true. k&r yardwork Dec 2011 #153

I like to listen to Ron Paul, but I wouldn't want to live in his vision of American utopia. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #156

paul is a republican...keep his sorry ass out of d.u. spanone Dec 2011 #158

Oh, and (BRRRING!) KamaAina Dec 2011 #160

If Ron Paul was my only option to vote for President of the USA... LynneSin Dec 2011 #161

+ A Googoplex! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2011 #168

Ron Paul is like your crazy uncle hifiguy Dec 2011 #169

Please leave my crazy uncle out of this. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2011 #184

Exactly like Dale Charlemagne Dec 2011 #210

A Libertarian is just a corporatist Prophet 451 Dec 2011 #182

Exactly! LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #197

Now that President Obama has signed the NDAA... Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #183

President Obama has NOT signed the bill Tx4obama Dec 2011 #186

Yes, I know about Ron Paul. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #233

From a Ron Paul Paultard newsletter:Martin Luther King, Jr. Day as �Hate Whitey Day.� Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #187

The "Kill Whitey Day" one is problematic because his supporters can't claim it was ghostwritten. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #211

Yup Johnny2X2X Dec 2011 #188

Lioness... I support Ron Paul in the PRIMARY PROCESS, but READ ON... BanTheGOP Dec 2011 #189

Damn Skippy quakerboy Dec 2011 #190

Ron Paul is the poster boy for... wakemewhenitsover Dec 2011 #194

Fascism disguised as liberty. Deep13 Dec 2011 #196

Thank you! freshwest Dec 2011 #219

K/R Jack Rabbit Dec 2011 #200

Ron Paul's policies are all staggeringly bad. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #203

Amen and K&R unionworks Dec 2011 #206

I dunno. A lot of people want the freedom to smoke pot anytime, anyplace so they Kahuna Dec 2011 #208

yah you can blow pot unionworks Dec 2011 #224

Ron Paul Puts Ideology Before History Galraedia Dec 2011 #213

I'm not at all happy w/ Obama and I think many of his blackspade Dec 2011 #214

Provided there were a Democratic Congress, a Paul presidency might not be so bad MNBrewer Dec 2011 #220

There is no such thing as 'best' from someone like Ron Paul. LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #227

I disagree MNBrewer Dec 2011 #231

Paul's civil liberties only extend to white Christian men. He can shove it up his stanky ass. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #232

I guess that's an opinion MNBrewer Dec 2011 #234

No, it's a fact. He wants to repeal Roe V Wade, he supports DOMA, he doesn't support equal pay, he PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #235

You have the sound bites down. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #239

Its sad that all we hear about is Ron Paul... lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #221

Stop the INSANITY ! Obama is the most PROGRESSIVE President since LBJ if not FDR. GET REAL ! RBInMaine Dec 2011 #222

lol La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #226

for some people here - really only a few - it is not good enough to support the reelection of the Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #228

So true La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #236

Progressive? MNBrewer Dec 2011 #237

K&R. Thank you La Lioness Priyanka. great white snark Dec 2011 #229

Bottom line: the President is *easy* for "centrists" to love. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #246

No. Bottom line is: Obama is a DEMOCRAT and Ron Paul is a REPUBLICAN TOOL. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #247

People probably just "want the freedom to get high" (not go to war, etc. etc.) Romulox Dec 2011 #248

And 'freedom' to restrict women's reproductive rights and 'freedom' to not have social safety nets PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #249

Women's reproductive rights are protected by the SCOTUS; we have very little "social safety net" Romulox Dec 2011 #250

You know that Ron Paul said he will "effectively repeal Roe v. Wade", right? PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #251

I think you're scared of Paul because you don't like where this discussion is going. Romulox Dec 2011 #252

I am 'scared' of all Republicans & their fucked up agendas. Including that nutbag. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #253

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Loyalty oath? I am asking you if you support Ron Paul, not take a loyalty oath. PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #255

ok. not sure what your point is there. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2011 #259

This obviously needs a kick Renew Deal Dec 2011 #264