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DonCoquixote

(13,950 posts)
78. If a guy is rich
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jun 2014

He can afford to do RESEARCH on his highly expensive, very rare bottles of wine. Instead of spending 25 million to pursue people after the fact, he could have spent a few million on Private investigators before hand. In buisness, you are expected to check before you leap, but as he has inhertied wealth, he has never learned to do that, and he can at least hire people to do that for him.

But let's adress this whole "theft is theft" idea...how, pray tell, did this person get so rich? Part of it is his spending millions to buy politicans and media time, to outright LIE, and kepp his taxes low. Those taxes are what he owes us for making a society that can buy all those Dixie Cups he sells. His trucks roll on roads we paid for, his banks are stablizied by our FDIC, and yet, he has been trying to make sure he, and other people like him, pay less and less taxes. Even as our deficit runs higher, even as we fight wars to ensure HIS supply of oil, he steals millions from us! The problem is that we do not see the theft from millions of us as a crime, only we are supposed to weep because of what happened to one person that, in the end, will not have to worry about medical care, food, rent, cancer from pollution, mounting debt, or anything else we do because of HIS willingness to STEAL OUR GOVERNMENT FROM US!

Let's be honest, if he agreed to the CLINTON tax rate, which was far from the Eisnehower one, the Cliton taz rate, would he still be able to collect enough vintages that he could turn his wine cellar into a museum? Yes. But he will not even settle for that, no, this is a persopn that wants to get rid of Social Security, the one little bit of money that has not been stolen from us. The point is, stealing is wrong, but I know who the real deadly thieves are.

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If it's a Koch. Absofuckinglutely. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #1
+ eleventy billion! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #9
Yes, but only if Shankapotomus Jun 2014 #70
Its hard to feel sympathy for billionaires quinnox Jun 2014 #2
Sympathy for the man stealing democracy? whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #3
+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #60
I am going to put this bluntly - TBF Jun 2014 #4
+1 btrflykng9 Jun 2014 #5
Plus, the Kochs have and are still polluting our environment... Frustratedlady Jun 2014 #35
Actually that's not my argument - TBF Jun 2014 #37
I agree, and have not read most of the posts. elleng Jun 2014 #6
Yup, just look above our posts. Archae Jun 2014 #10
Pointing, laughing and enjoying a bit of schadenfreude is to be expected. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #12
excellently worded leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #22
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, that most don't know of his difference from the others. arcane1 Jun 2014 #53
It really masks deep character flaws Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #72
I can only agree that theft is theft, no matter the victim. But we are human. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #7
Think about who is really doing the stealing (exploiting) - TBF Jun 2014 #34
I agree. Energy expended on nastiness is just wasted energy, counter productive. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #8
Bill Koch is a philanthropist. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #21
I thought he sued his brothers because they cheated him out of money or inheritance randys1 Jun 2014 #31
He sued his brothers after discovering they were illegally drilling... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #40
you missed a few points about your apparent hero PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #42
Hes not my hero. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #46
lol, yes, I am sure the lawsuit was 100% altruistic. He was watching out for others... PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #47
Doubling down on "blame the victim"? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #48
lol, now you're just stone cold lying. I never "blamed" him. PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #65
These brothers are trying to destroy America. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #11
Not ALL of them. Archae Jun 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jun 2014 #14
these men are evil. The Kennedys were not. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #15
You're dodging the question. Archae Jun 2014 #18
I never said they all were. I just have no sympathy. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #20
this is my feeling about this, too. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #30
"I am not saying it is right to cheat them but I won't cry for them." nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #61
What, pray tell, are Bill Koch's redeeming qualities? PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #23
He funded an all woman's America's Cup team... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #32
How do you know all of them are evil? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #24
Have a nice day. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #26
mm hmm PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #28
Oh, this is crazy, too... PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #33
Some familes are just evil. Bush is one, Koch is another. ~nt~ b.durruti Jun 2014 #69
Koch and rich are not synonyms. The post does not say 'if he's rich' it says 'if he's a Koch'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #16
When someone brushes everyone in a group with the same broad brush Peacetrain Jun 2014 #17
"just go in and steal his money, right" NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #19
Morality is not about the victim. JayhawkSD Jun 2014 #25
Are you sickened by people trying to live on shit wages? leftstreet Jun 2014 #27
Excellent question. Let's have a sense of proportion here, shall we? n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #62
I knew it was only a matter of time BainsBane Jun 2014 #29
+1 nt laundry_queen Jun 2014 #45
I simply find it an interesting story. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #36
jawbreaker jawbreaker Jun 2014 #38
It points out something I always noticed Warpy Jun 2014 #39
Roger Clinton was a cokehead.... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #41
"Oh that's different!" Archae Jun 2014 #43
Yeeeeup ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #44
LOL. KG Jun 2014 #49
I would prefer the legal expropriation of the robber barons. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #50
Looks like Mary Cheney will be headed to the Hague. Archae Jun 2014 #51
I seriously dislike cheats.... ohheckyeah Jun 2014 #52
The Kochs father and these sons have done incalculable Anansi1171 Jun 2014 #54
Like I said... Archae Jun 2014 #56
The Koch Brothers did not make their money honestly. Initech Jun 2014 #55
I'd have more sympathy for the devil. L0oniX Jun 2014 #57
Well, if he's a Koch, then he's a cheater and so it could WhiteTara Jun 2014 #58
I don't understand your objection. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #59
I am just sickened by the great and growing wealth disparity in this country. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #63
It's not okay to cheat him, I just can't persuade myself to care. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #64
this particular koch is merely trying to destroy our environment, he's one of the good ones accordin PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #66
I'm sickened that a rich guy thought he could get premium wine on the cheap. tenderfoot Jun 2014 #67
You mean the attitude that it's time for the 99% to take back what the 1% has stolen from them? b.durruti Jun 2014 #68
William Koch is actually a pretty good person. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #71
DU has a pretty strong cadre of "the ends justify the means" adherents. X_Digger Jun 2014 #73
How much do you suppose he wept when 99-percenters lost their jobs and homes? Orrex Jun 2014 #74
Fuck him. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #75
You are correct nobody should be intentionally ripped off, not even a Koch brother not even Darth Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #76
The OP is right DFW Jun 2014 #77
If a guy is rich DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #78
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