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157. Wow, you're so right! Sorry about the non-grammatical nonsense. I was tired. The point is that IN

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:39 AM

Jun 2014

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the readings are the proofs, unless you yourself have to see the files from Greenwald's or Poitras' thumb drives. Others have seen their digital proofs and published them. But now you say that evidence isn't good enough?

I'll be at a conference seeing Greenwald this Thursday, will raise your questions and get back to you.

I require proof of allegations made - and thus far, Greenwald/Snowden have offered no proof whatsoever of their allegations. None. Zero. Nada.

I'm to conclude that the proof that's been posted online by the Guardian and in Greenwald's book isn't proof to you, then. Are you saying that the 150 documents I saw published are fabricated? That Snowden and Greenwald are lying?

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‘Bullsh*t!’ Greenwald and Iraq Vet Blow Up on Real Time over Snowden Leaks [View all] babylonsister Jun 2014 OP

Believe in the Green One and you will be saved. randome Jun 2014 #1

Believe in the government and you won't mind seeing the rich get richer off wars without end. Octafish Jun 2014 #2

Who 'believes' (i.e. fully trusts) the government? randome Jun 2014 #3

So why isn't the worst president in jail? The guy lied America into war. Octafish Jun 2014 #4

+10000 Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #5

absolutely! thank you! n/t wildbilln864 Jun 2014 #25

Exactly. And his buddies have been all over teevee lately. laundry_queen Jun 2014 #30

+1! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #133

jeopardy : partisan edition bobduca Jun 2014 #18

Yes Oh Green One treestar Jun 2014 #55

Greenwald is an arrogant piece of shit. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #6

Repeatedly saying stupid shit that isn't true whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #8

Works for Greenwald. randome Jun 2014 #10

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #60

Haha. GG thinks it works for him.. he sure showed his a$$ last night. Course with his Cha Jun 2014 #90

Boom!... SidDithers Jun 2014 #151

You just described Greenwald to a tee. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #12

And you. whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #14

Tsk tsk MohRokTah Jun 2014 #22

How would you know? whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #24

Your posts divulge your true feelings. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #27

My true feelings are whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #31

You're pained. I can see it. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #32

Ha, sure whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #33

Yep MohRokTah Jun 2014 #34

Less my "hero" than whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #36

Nah, I can see you putting him on that pedestal. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #38

Which brings us full circle whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #40

I know, but really, I'm tryng to help you stop. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #46

Well maybe, but he was right in his statements on RT last night (free HBO weekend - only time I Hestia Jun 2014 #11

I disagree. eom MohRokTah Jun 2014 #13

I trust Greenwald more than I trust the secret government..... Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #28

GG's doing this for money just like every other mercenary.. but, yeah you put your trust Cha Jun 2014 #95

Thousands of documents that are possible security threats being released in the hands lumpy Jun 2014 #81

Interesting that Greenwald brought up Rand Paul as an alternative to Hillary. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #15

They've been glamoured by the wingnut. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #21

yeah, and that will be ignored by too many here. bettyellen Jun 2014 #37

I'll ignore it because it didn't happen. The link below includes the segment about the 2016 election Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #88

And there it is! He made similar noises about Gary Johnson in '12. Why his work.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #59

I'm just glad the Paul could stand to be in the same room with GG's smarmy face. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #72

No he didn't. Maher introduced Paul as the likely candidate. Greenwald was largely mute Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #86

Greenwald's comment was that many neo-cons are now supporting Hillary. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #92

Watching it now. He said nothing about anyone supporting anybody. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #94

Getting ad hominem now? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #98

And your link is from the Overtime show Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #99

That's not from the broadcast, LA. Your link is incorrect. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #142

ridiculous grasswire Jun 2014 #48

HA! MohRokTah Jun 2014 #50

Pretzel logic HangOnKids Jun 2014 #87

Some people work from home..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #131

Exactly what I've been saying all these years.. the "arrogant piece of shit" part. He can never be Cha Jun 2014 #82

Well said. I feel exactly the same way. nt mimi85 Jun 2014 #128

No-one had anything constructive to say last night... elias49 Jun 2014 #7

Fuck Rieckhoff whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #9

$145,000 per year man. Octafish Jun 2014 #17

Hmm... whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #20

Stan Goff let fly back in '05: ''A Trojan Jackass for the Anti-War Movement'' Octafish Jun 2014 #23

Thanks for this. nt elias49 Jun 2014 #29

+1! Now how could you reasonably argue with this post? Enthusiast Jun 2014 #134

"Rieckhoff misses the point." Duppers Jun 2014 #56

only Greenwald is allowed to make Money with the Book Deals, Film Deals, Omidyar's Billions JI7 Jun 2014 #58

Swing and a MISS HangOnKids Jun 2014 #91

I used to respect him. bahrbearian Jun 2014 #19

Like John Kerry, our 2004 Presidential candidate, service can inform one's political viewpoint. msanthrope Jun 2014 #35

Lots of thin-skinned, Greenwald hating, turds right here whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #39

You know, calling fellow DUers "turds" because your hero, GG was disparaged, does not encourage msanthrope Jun 2014 #41

Has it ever occurred to you whatchamacallit Jun 2014 #43

But we aren't talking about "anyone." We are talking about your behavior. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #45

Oh Boo Hoo.. Someone is so "thinned skin".. he's lashing out with "Turds".. Cha Jun 2014 #105

Speakng of thin-skin... Lancero Jun 2014 #140

R#6 for, "And we're supposed to take your word?" n/t UTUSN Jun 2014 #16

at proving a negative Electric Monk Jun 2014 #44

Thank You Snowden - Thank You Greenwald cantbeserious Jun 2014 #26

Amen! nt BillZBubb Jun 2014 #62

Worth watching and digesting what was said /nt think Jun 2014 #42

Glenn Greenwald came out ahead in that "discussion". SamKnause Jun 2014 #47

and thank you SamKnause... grasswire Jun 2014 #49

Yes, that sunshine will certainly feel great if those documents that are detrimental to lumpy Jun 2014 #93

OMG WTF might happen? HangOnKids Jun 2014 #100

I'm sure we'll be invaded by the Soviet Union. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #137

LOL Enthusiast Jun 2014 #136

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #135

Children, please jollyreaper2112 Jun 2014 #51

Yes, ad hominem is pretty much all they have. Laughable, really. djean111 Jun 2014 #52

BINGO!.....there you go...this HAS to be blamed on "Obama's failings" VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #132

In the name of the Green One, the Rich One and the Snowy Ghost...amen. randome Jun 2014 #53

okay....that's pure gold. Totally using that!!nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #61

Really.. Union Scribe Jun 2014 #66

Seriously? Look...I'm the DUer who came up with "Comrade Eddie." nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #69

I guess I must have mistaken you Union Scribe Jun 2014 #70

Precisely!!! Comity within the community is important. Neither GG or ES are members of our msanthrope Jun 2014 #71

But, is GG a "piece of shit used car salesman"? Cha Jun 2014 #97

I'm not sure about it in his daily life, giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #107

Oh, he plays one in his tweets and blogs, too. nm Cha Jun 2014 #109

Hey, did you weigh in on the Great Profanity Deluge? randome Jun 2014 #84

Randome, you're killin' us. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #73

I'm on a roll! randome Jun 2014 #83

It would be real journalism by Glenn Greenwald should he tell the complete story, who is behind Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #54

What a crock! BillZBubb Jun 2014 #63

What is a patsy? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #74

that does it grasswire Jun 2014 #110

Naw, things was already made up, now we need the rest of the story. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #112

I don't think you understand what's happening. grasswire Jun 2014 #114

Unfortunately I do understand, understand why there was a non disclosure as a requirement of Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #125

And how did Snowden know ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #141

Shit! It's worse than we thought, Nance! Look what's happening in Europe right fucking now! randome Jun 2014 #143

And they're ALL headed for Copenhagen ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #150

Read Greenwald's book and your clever questions will be answered. Your questions are a substitute ancianita Jun 2014 #145

Given that I don't trust a word GG says ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #149

You base your distrust upon nothing but fantasy and hearsay. You sound like right wingers ancianita Jun 2014 #153

I base my "mistrust" ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #154

"No, you!" I'm not one to believe "official sources" anymore, that's true. I've lived ancianita Jun 2014 #155

Healthy skepticism is exactly that ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #156

Wow, you're so right! Sorry about the non-grammatical nonsense. I was tired. The point is that IN ancianita Jun 2014 #157

I have far more respect and trust for Paul Rieckhoff One of the 99 Jun 2014 #57

I have little respect for Rieckhoff BillZBubb Jun 2014 #64

Rieckhoff was a soldier who did his duty One of the 99 Jun 2014 #75

Oh Bubby! lumpy Jun 2014 #96

Rieckhoff was pro Iraq War all the way. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #138

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #65

Does this Rieckhoff support the U.S. wars of aggression? JackRiddler Jun 2014 #67

Sen. Mike Rogers (R) would say the same things. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #68

The intellectual discourse in this thread is, um, lacking. neverforget Jun 2014 #76

Except this is Greenwald's method of debate, as Rieckhoff pointed out. joshcryer Jun 2014 #78

Both sides are doing it on this thread. That's what I am saying. neverforget Jun 2014 #85

I'm not disagreeing. joshcryer Jun 2014 #121

Mired in personalities again I see... randys1 Jun 2014 #77

Rieckhoff was rude. Obviously hadn't read Greenwald's book. Thinks because he's fought, he's right. ancianita Jun 2014 #79

"Rieckhoff was rude"? Oh right.. of course.. GG was a model of decorum and it's everyone Cha Jun 2014 #89

You mad? I didn't say he didn't have a right to voice his opinion. He shut out other opinions. ancianita Jun 2014 #103

Paul Rieckoff was right.. and I thank him for standing up for the truth.. Cha Jun 2014 #108

Please explicitly state what Rieckhoff said that was "standing up for the truth." ancianita Jun 2014 #115

Bottom line is Paul Rieckhoff was so right and I thank him for exposing Cha Jun 2014 #116

They're both honorable men. The country needs them both. The entire exchange was only at the depth ancianita Jun 2014 #119

+1! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #139

Greenwald wasn't rude when he wouldn't let his opponent get a word in edgewise? Sure. lumpy Jun 2014 #101

GG is "god" .. you don't question the big green meanie. lol Cha Jun 2014 #102

Intelligent questions, sure; not presumptuous questions like "why is Snowden hiding" in Russia. ancianita Jun 2014 #106

"Bullshit" was the one and only interruption. And it was the right response, too. Please tell me all ancianita Jun 2014 #104

"Bullshit" was Rude.. but of course the fans give the slithery one a pass on that. Cha Jun 2014 #129

yes, you are right grasswire Jun 2014 #113

Thank you. That's how I saw the exchange. Maher did say that Greenwald's ideas and book were to be ancianita Jun 2014 #117

Maher seemed to be afraid of the heat. grasswire Jun 2014 #123

Well, as I said before, his show over the last eight years has only given cursory intros on issues ancianita Jun 2014 #124

It was disappointing in multiple ways. navarth Jun 2014 #80

Think of what we wouldn't know... MaggieD Jun 2014 #111

"Rieckhoff responded, “And we’re supposed to take your word?” Hell to the NO. Cha Jun 2014 #118

Greenwald responded: "You should have evidence for accusations you want to make." HELL YES. ancianita Jun 2014 #120

Once again, the audience is with Greenwald. grasswire Jun 2014 #126

Agreed. They "got it" because they know who has their best interests at heart. ancianita Jun 2014 #127

Yeah Paul Rieckhoff, I enjoyed it. Stellar Jun 2014 #122

"Please tell me how leaking intelligence to Terrorist Organizations is a Good thing?" Cha Jun 2014 #130

No one leaked anything to any terrorist organization and the "intelligence" and surveillance agencie TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #144

why do all of the BOGers have such hatred for Greenwald? Doctor_J Jun 2014 #146

Yet this is happening...... Logical Jun 2014 #147

An utterly meaningless amendment by Sensenbrenner? Look....if Jimbo actually wanted to msanthrope Jun 2014 #148

Glen Greenwald is a tool for the republican agenda! B Calm Jun 2014 #152

"Greenwald’s attitude about this issue is incredibly cavalier, and it was good to see someone who Cha Jun 2014 #158