I reason I knew we were wrong "before" the Iraq war started is ... (Reply #13)

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Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:57 AM

L0oniX (31,493 posts)

13. I reason I knew we were wrong "before" the Iraq war started is ...

because of the emotional pride the nation was being buried in. Pride always comes before the downfall. "The Power of Pride" bumper sticker ...I always hated and marked whoever had one as being stupid and dangerous. Just like those that were quick to attach a flag to their vehicles. Those flags were warnings of danger to me ...their was another idiot driving. Besides the US pride there was the whole twisted idea that Saddam attacked us floating around. I was amazed to find out that so many really believed that. This is what happens when emotional blind pride takes over ...it's dangerous not just for america ....but all the 100's of thousands of innocent people who died and are still dying. Those people and children didn't attack us on 911. People need to wake up about what the US government, the MIC and the 1% are doing to us and everyone else in the world. We are being played!

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93 replies	Author	Time	Post
Chris Hedges: The Ghoulish Face of Empire [View all]	marmar	Jun 2014	OP
du rec.	xchrom	Jun 2014	#1
Those That Need To Hear This Message Never Will	cantbeserious	Jun 2014	#2
And we who have no pwer will pay for their war crimes.	Demeter	Jun 2014	#3
+ 1	cantbeserious	Jun 2014	#5
And pay,	Plucketeer	Jun 2014	#24
I'd like to review what DU members were saying in the run up to the war.	L0oniX	Jun 2014	#19
No need to imagine...	ljm2002	Jun 2014	#78
The NYT ran him off over his objections to the war. He was very vocal in opposition before and after	Skeeter Barnes	Jun 2014	#85
K & R	democrank	Jun 2014	#4
K & R for truth	malaise	Jun 2014	#6
"the Frankenstein monster stitched together from the body parts we left scattered on the ground"	dixiegrrrrl	Jun 2014	#61
Really perfect phrasing although I might have said	malaise	Jun 2014	#66
Coulda, woulda, shoulda	gratuitous	Jun 2014	#7
It Behooves Us	yellowwoodII	Jun 2014	#8
"Blinded by hubris?"	merrily	Jun 2014	#9
Interesting point. "Blinded by hubris" implies good intentions but failed due to arrogance. I don't	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#15
I do no think the definition of hubris includes genuine good intentions, ever.	Fred Sanders	Jun 2014	#20
The phrase is "blinded by hubris" not just plain hubris. Blinded by hubris implies there was good	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#22
Hubris is simply "excessive price or self-confidence"	starroute	Jun 2014	#27
That's correct. But what is being suggested is altered by the two words proceeding it. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#28
"Blinded by hubris" doesn't suggest good intentions to me	starroute	Jun 2014	#35
This might help, try these out...	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#36
Neither one works because hubris isn't a success/failure thing	starroute	Jun 2014	#43
It's not hubris. It's "blinded by hubris" were talking about a phrase, not a word. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#44
According to the wiki, hubris had a lot to do with sex as well.	merrily	Jun 2014	#67
I believe that, at the very least, Cheney, Bush, Powell and Tenet	merrily	Jun 2014	#45
Response	Jack Rabbit	Jun 2014	#80
+1 gazillion. War is always about making rich people richer. nt	valerief	Jun 2014	#18
Yet, the Egyptians somehow managed 1000 years of peace AND	merrily	Jun 2014	#46
Today being rich isn't enough. The rich continually have to be richer.	valerief	Jun 2014	#60
Well, they can't think only of themselves, you know. They're	merrily	Jun 2014	#62
Exactly. It always and always will be about the money. All the way down the chain.	raouldukelives	Jun 2014	#25
exactly.....even more, I suspect that the	bbgrunt	Jun 2014	#70
Never thought of that, but it's not out of the realm	merrily	Jun 2014	#73
You can see more than one facet of an issue, Mr. Hedges.	randome	Jun 2014	#10
Morality	yellowwoodII	Jun 2014	#21
I can see that point.	randome	Jun 2014	#23
The Most Poignant Point	yellowwoodII	Jun 2014	#26
Not even for the American torturers after Bush left office?	merrily	Jun 2014	#47
More like this.	grahamhgreen	Jun 2014	#11
Interesting piece. I wonder who actually wrote it?	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#12
.	randome	Jun 2014	#16
snort	NuclearDem	Jun 2014	#34
Always interesting to see who takes amusement in an important voice from	Hissyspit	Jun 2014	#91
My copy of American Fascists doesn't take any joy in it.	NuclearDem	Jun 2014	#93
Does it really matter?	merrily	Jun 2014	#48
Yes.	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#54
And the selfless do gooder without sin casts the stone.	merrily	Jun 2014	#58
I reason I knew we were wrong "before" the Iraq war started is ...	L0oniX	Jun 2014	#13
Hubris, imperialistic hubris, is what it was, and for many, still is; is it a good thing?	Fred Sanders	Jun 2014	#14
I think "hubris" gives the Bush admin too much credit. See my post above. nt	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#17
It's worse than the dictionary definition. Check the wiki.	merrily	Jun 2014	#49
"But the dance of death is intoxicating. Once it begins you whirl in an ecstatic frenzy...	factsarenotfair	Jun 2014	#29
McCain as lead vocalist?	merrily	Jun 2014	#75
Perfect. n/t	factsarenotfair	Jun 2014	#79
Who wrote this piece?	frazzled	Jun 2014	#30
Does it really matter?	merrily	Jun 2014	#50
Yes.	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#53
Wow. You're really zealous about bashing Hedges.	merrily	Jun 2014	#64
Was that privately addressed to frazzled or was it posted publicly on the internet..	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#65
Still, you answered the question put to you AND the one put to frazzled.	merrily	Jun 2014	#69
What is with all this "who really wrote this" idiocy upthread?	marmar	Jun 2014	#31
Sounds Like	yellowwoodII	Jun 2014	#32
I thought you were going to say "Sound like a smear campaign."	merrily	Jun 2014	#76
That tends to happen when you get caught plagiarizing other people's work.	name not needed	Jun 2014	#33
Like Joe Biden did?	merrily	Jun 2014	#51
gee, I wondered who would bring up this distraction.	grasswire	Jun 2014	#81
Nope. He got busted plagiarizing...so it is now a legitimate question...	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#37
But...	yellowwoodII	Jun 2014	#38
It certainly does, which is a tremendous shame...	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#40
I did not know that. How bad was the allegation?	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#39
Whole passages...	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#41
I live in fear of accidentally doing this on my radio show.	stevenleser	Jun 2014	#42
I know...in today's world where everything tends to blend together it is very easy...	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#52
The allegations from the RW seem different from the view of the left.	merrily	Jun 2014	#77
Maybe it is a legit question, and maybe	merrily	Jun 2014	#56
Google it. He did it on multiple occasions.	truebrit71	Jun 2014	#57
I was in the process of googling it until I saw my post tab go yellow.	merrily	Jun 2014	#59
I googled. Seems a right wing publication was the sole source of	merrily	Jun 2014	#63
Hedges' publisher is who busted him on it.	NuclearDem	Jun 2014	#68
I am still not sure anyone "busted him."	merrily	Jun 2014	#71
At least one "lefty writer" seems a lot angrier about the smears	merrily	Jun 2014	#72
the expose' was written by the husband of someone...	grasswire	Jun 2014	#82
Thanks, grasswire, but, at this very moment, I	merrily	Jun 2014	#84
sad all around	grasswire	Jun 2014	#86
Or so the husband says. (I've read more now.)	merrily	Jun 2014	#87
Did you read Hedge's response?	merrily	Jun 2014	#88
sounds fair, trulyl	grasswire	Jun 2014	#89
Plagiarism has not been proven and he denies it.	merrily	Jun 2014	#74
Hedges has written disapprovingly of the president's right-wing ideology	Doctor_J	Jun 2014	#83
Our dear leaders have painted such a huge bullseye on America	Oilwellian	Jun 2014	#55
K & R !!!	WillyT	Jun 2014	#90
K&R	PowerToThePeople	Jun 2014	#92

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