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nadinbrzezinski

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57. I will point this out, since you seem not to get it,

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:18 AM

Jun 2014

not caring about money (the way you and I do) is actually pretty common among people who are very well off. I am sorry, but if you live in an apartment worth ten million, with two kitchens... and your starting salary is $600,000, and you happen to be the daughter of a former POTUS, you really have a very different attitude about money. Your struggles will also be very different as well.

You might not go into those circles, but people in those circles truly do not care about money. They do not have to worry about whether to pay the electric bill, or buy meds, or get shoes. You might also not understand this, but there is quite a bit of resentment towards these folks, and she said words that will byte her. She should keep away from media or learn how speak to media, one or the other.

It is not because it happens to be Chelsea (who is very well off)... it is about a very well off person expressing the values of her class.

What her mother said, "we are regular folks." Compared to those who have money orders of magnitude larger than they do, she is correct. They are just working stiffs. When compared to the mean of income in this country, they are extremely well off. Oh and here is the real shocker. the Clintons are NOT middle class. They are wealthy. Their faux populism is grating at this point. Not because they are the Clintons mind you.

There are ways they could do it... and pull it off... see Warren Buffett, who is orders of magnitude wealthier than they are. The way they are going about it, is just silly, frankly. They sound naive and quite nuveau riche, perhaps because they are.

Trying to defend this by telling us that we cannot detect spin is kind of funny actually. In fact, extremely funny. Thanks for the comedy gold

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Re:Chelsea Clinton: Did peoples' spin-detectors suddenly short out? [View all] JHB Jun 2014 OP

to answer your question: no, people don't check sources OKNancy Jun 2014 #1

I think you are right, sad but true. nt arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #61

I think the real problem is that many many voters - not DUers - will only see the spin. djean111 Jun 2014 #2

It's what DUers do... SidDithers Jun 2014 #3

They are attacking the Obama kids in a separate thread. JoePhilly Jun 2014 #9

oh no they're not. but good job misrepresenting that thread and OP cali Jun 2014 #15

Feeling defensive are you? JoePhilly Jun 2014 #19

How about a link? n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #37

not at all, dear. I used my post because it's representative of the tone of the cali Jun 2014 #38

I like the phony use of terms of endearment JoePhilly Jun 2014 #74

oh for pity's sake cali Jun 2014 #79

... and? JoePhilly Jun 2014 #86

and so, I feel qualified to speak on being both privileged and poor. cali Jun 2014 #87

This place is not nearly as bad as the new forum. You mates are tame and arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #63

Sorry, but fail. We are all adults with life experience enough to recognize that Bonobo Jun 2014 #4

Basically it's all about perception. You already have a negative view of the Clintons, so you assume Metric System Jun 2014 #5

The reverse is equally true. Bonobo Jun 2014 #11

"Not fully cognizant of the real hardships that most people face" betsuni Jun 2014 #14

I love when people say that. Bonobo Jun 2014 #18

I know. It's silly. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #21

I knew you were going to do that! betsuni Jun 2014 #30

You got a real inferiority complex. Bonobo Jun 2014 #40

I think you missed the point of that response ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #51

I have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Bonobo Jun 2014 #55

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #59

Jenna Bush Scarsdale Jun 2014 #49

Is it really ridiculous to ask for the information that informs one's opinion? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #46

information is not evidence. Come on... nt Bonobo Jun 2014 #47

Sure it is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #58

No. Evidence may be a type of information, but Bonobo Jun 2014 #62

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #64

The evidence is the words this controversy is about. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #36

No. It's about Chelsea's words and the huge difference between what rich people JDPriestly Jun 2014 #35

Context... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #10

THANK YOU! betsuni Jun 2014 #12

Some of the most miserable people I know The Green Manalishi Jun 2014 #20

Tucker Carlson Scarsdale Jun 2014 #52

She's talking from eight miles high BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #13

That is the first time I have seen her words. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #33

That's not what I got from it at all. surrealAmerican Jun 2014 #53

but she has the CHOICE to not care about money Skittles Jun 2014 #96

lots of people want to grow up to emulate their parents. cali Jun 2014 #39

your suggesting she should have gotten a job with a hedge fund as a teenager? HA bettyellen Jun 2014 #77

uh no, and of course I said nothing remotely like that, dear bettyellen. cali Jun 2014 #78

well you suggested her money chasing rebellion should have happened as a teen- so what exactly was bettyellen Jun 2014 #80

no I did not. gad. reading comprehension. cali Jun 2014 #84

oh, it's an over simplistic generalization used to imply she is lying about her reasons for choosing bettyellen Jun 2014 #85

The interesting thing (to me) is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #56

A lot easier is just to say a career in finance just wasn't a good fit. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #88

Notice money in () Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #89

That would change the context zero percent TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #92

Actually, your quote IS inaccurate... JHB Jun 2014 #25

It's the same. Bonobo Jun 2014 #26

So I suppose if you asked someone that quit being a chef why they quit and they said Chathamization Jun 2014 #31

Followed by "That wasn't the metric of success I wanted..." JHB Jun 2014 #32

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU betsuni Jun 2014 #6

I had a thought this morning while posting in another thread - TBF Jun 2014 #7

You mean sort of like censoring things to repeat one's own version of the Democratic Party line. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #28

The Article Does 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #45

No that's not what I meant - TBF Jun 2014 #83

It's been broken since at least 2009. Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #8

Yeah, reminds me of the �Gore said he invented the internet� lie. Chathamization Jun 2014 #16

This is true about almost every subject mainer Jun 2014 #17

Context is everything. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2014 #22

The only thing they read was the word "Clinton" and off they went. Beacool Jun 2014 #23

Yeah that article didn't seem very fairly written gollygee Jun 2014 #24

Marie Antoinette did not say "Let them eat cake" either. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #27

Today's version of that from the clueless wealthy is 'Let them eat fake'. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #44

A person's values aren't dictated by how much money they have. cheapdate Jun 2014 #29

I have NEVER met a poor person who didn't have huge anxiety about money cali Jun 2014 #43

Well, I have met poor people whose values were centered around things other than money. cheapdate Jun 2014 #66

I am an old hippie. commune ties still there. cali Jun 2014 #68

Screw you, too. cheapdate Jun 2014 #70

not what I said, but oh well. I expect nothing more from someone who claims cali Jun 2014 #72

Actually, they are Marrah_G Jun 2014 #50

thanks, Marrah. that claim is so ridiculous and maddening. cali Jun 2014 #69

That's not the proper understanding of social science research. cheapdate Jun 2014 #73

when it comes to the clintons, some people's brains turn off completely (in both directions) La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2014 #34

+1 n/t tammywammy Jun 2014 #67

I used to think it was only rightwingers who hated JaneyVee Jun 2014 #41

Yep and now all the corporate media spin is on HC's money Iliyah Jun 2014 #54

$600,000 a year packman Jun 2014 #42

Yup Marrah_G Jun 2014 #48

I will point this out, since you seem not to get it, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #57

+1 davidpdx Jun 2014 #93

considering the sh** that chealsea has put up with PatrynXX Jun 2014 #60

yes, she had shit- and great privilege as well. cali Jun 2014 #75

Well, thanks for more spin. Orsino Jun 2014 #65

This is how truly privileged people (and their hangers on) think about themselves... nt Romulox Jun 2014 #71

Thank you. JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #76

Long before this brouhaha... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #81

How much did she make there I wonder? It also occurs to me that maybe, perhaps maybe, Dragonfli Jun 2014 #94

yeah, if they had a Dean scream moment, some here would be the first to attack for it bettyellen Jun 2014 #82

Is the issue of white privilege irrelevant here? nt Bonobo Jun 2014 #90

privilege is something every candidate has obtained along their way to the nomination, so...... bettyellen Jun 2014 #91

Thanks, JHB. What's going on here is disgusting. Hekate Jun 2014 #95