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Showing Original Post only (View all)Once Upon a Time, Liberals Hated the Individual Health Insurance Mandate [View all]

Once Upon a Time, Liberals Hated the Individual Mandate
by Avik Roy, Contributor
April 2, 2012
Theres a lot of talkmuch of it inaccurateabout the minority of conservatives who supported the individual mandate in the past, but oppose Obamacares requirement that all Americans buy health insurance. But these critics have devoted less attention to the fact that many liberalsincluding President Obamaopposed the individual mandate in the past. The liberals hated it, notes Jonathan Gruber in a recent New York Times profile. People forget that.
This is not real reform, said Howard Dean of Obamacares mandate in December 2009. Youre going to be forced to buy health insurance from a company thats going to take on average 27 percent of your money so they can pay CEOs 20 million dollars a year and theres no choice about that. If you dont buy that insurance, youre going to get a fine. This is a bill that was fundamentally written by staffers who are friendly to the insurance industry, [endorsed] by Senators who take a lot of money from the insurance industry, and its not health care reform. And I think its too bad that it should come to this Id kill the bill entirely.
Dean, to his great credit, has been consistent all along in his criticism of the mandate. Not so for President Obama, who on the campaign trail in 2008 ridiculed Hillary Clintons support of the mandate. I dont think the problem is that people dont want health insurance, he told Ellen DeGeneres in 2008, its that they cant afford it if things were that easy, I could mandate everybody to buy a house, and that would solve the problem of homelessness. It doesnt. As President Obamas staffers began pushing for a mandate, Ron Suskind reports, Obama expressed concern about Constitutional challenges to the provision. As we know now, he was right to have done so.
Former AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, representing the core Democratic constituency, was even more ardent than the President in his hatred of the individual mandate. In 2006, when Mitt Romney was about to sign his Massachusetts legislation, Sweeney went ballistic. Who would have thought that Massachusettslong considered a bastion of progressive thinkingwould take a page out of the Newt Gingrich playbook for health care reform? he asked. Forcing uninsured workers to purchase health care coverage or face higher taxes and fines is the cornerstone of Mr. Gingrichs health care reform proposals. And it is unconscionable that Massachusetts has adopted this misguided individual mandate.
Read the full article at:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/04/02/once-upon-a-time-liberals-hated-the-individual-mandate/
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In SCOTUS case, Obamacare has industry allies
by Timothy P. Carney
Senior Political Columnist
March 25, 2012
Corporate America's stance on the Obamacare case before the high court this week will surprise those who followed Obama's narrative or most news coverage of the law, which was supposedly a broadside to the special interests. But back then, health-sector lobbies either supported the bill or at least supported its core provisions. Today, industry briefs before the court show the same lack of "special-interest" opposition.
Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Massachusetts filed an amicus brief with the court in support of Obama's Department of Health & Human Services. The insurer writes that it played a central role in crafting Mitt Romney's Massachusetts health-care law that served as the prototype of Obamacare, and that it "remains firmly committed to the 2006 health care reform and the individual mandate, and believes that the closely related reforms enacted by Congress in 2010 will further advance important economic and social goals."
The American Hospital Association is a $20-million-a-year lobby (the third-biggest lobbying organization in terms of spending since 1998, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics). The AHA has filed briefs in support of the law, and its amicus brief before the Supreme Court argues that "the court should uphold the individual mandate."
The health-care law provides new taxpayer subsidies to hospitals, and the individual mandate could reduce the "uncompensated care" hospitals now provide for the uninsured. Plus, more universal and subsidized health coverage could allow hospitals to raise prices.
Read the full article at:
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/scotus-case-obamacare-has-industry-allies/446831
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Better Believe It
Apr 2012
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That's because we didn't want insurance at all, just a universal health plan, but
Cleita
Apr 2012
#1
We "got stuck" with the insurance industry bill when the administration decided to stick us with it
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#5
Obama's health care plan in the primaries was the same as Hillary Clinton's plan, only
Liquorice
Apr 2012
#68
It will be far worse. This legislation was written by big business lobbyists. Need I say more?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#6
So just don't purchase it. You're not being forced to buy anything. Pay the tax instead.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#7
Having a reasonable Medicare for All payroll tax would be fine. Who is proposing that?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#21
You can choose to look at it that way or you can look at it as helping your fellow Americans.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#39
The Govt IS shouldering the cost. MILLIONS of new people will receive MediCare.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#116
Paying taxes for a Medicare for All single payer system is good but that's not being proposed.
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#95
Their won't be millions of new recipients of Medicare. The qualifying age remains 65 years old.
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#124
Actually, because some people will qualify to have their premiums subsidized the government will
dflprincess
Apr 2012
#114
That's actually a good way of looking at it, being if you choose the tax it will be done during tax
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#118
The significant parts of the article of course BBI omitted those. Leads with the negative,
emulatorloo
Apr 2012
#25
I hope people don't listen to a guy in Romney's Health Care Policy Advisory Group
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#30
And the present "fight," where everyone argues for what they were once against, is very strange.
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#59
Almost as offensive as passing far right wing legislation and calling it a liberal victory.
girl gone mad
Apr 2012
#45
You have neglected the needs of your own country, you need to convince people like Michael M. Rachli
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#92
i'd like to take this opportunity to thank you guys for the continued free entertainment...
dionysus
Apr 2012
#123
So did you embrace the Republican/RW support for mandatory private insurance ....
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#96
So how do you feel about mandatory private health insurance first proposed by right-wing Republicans
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#109
I have hated that Heritage Foundation POS for at least 20 years now, I must change 180 now
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#29
Dance all you want to, I won't dislike you for it, but it has been a GOP plan for over 20 years
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#49
None of that changes the reality that it is a bad Right Wing Idea from 20 years ago
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#53
Blue links do not negate history, particularly history within easy memory.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2012
#75
It's the best we can do in a country that will not allow government based solutions.
mmonk
Apr 2012
#69
The mandate was a minor point of difference between Obama and Clinton's Healthcare plans.
JoePhilly
Apr 2012
#73
Once upon a time, liberals didn't post opinions from right-wing authors...nt
SidDithers
Apr 2012
#77
Are you denying the fact that Republicans proposed the mandate and liberal Democrats opposed it?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#84
So are you admiting that the article was absolutely true on corporate support for the mandate?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#94
American's concerns and lives are "off the table", the corrupt table that is
just1voice
Apr 2012
#99