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63. It ain't the money: it's the bull@#$%.

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Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:50 PM

Jun 2014

Exactly.

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Hillary and Bill earned every penny they have. [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 OP

Blood money? hrmjustin Jun 2014 #1

NAFTA/Glass Steagal Repeal? 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #4

Blood money is too stroong a word. I disliked NAFTA but I loved Clinton. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #5

I save blood money for the Bush Cheney crew- this is more "they're all exactly the same" bettyellen Jun 2014 #11

Agreed! I hope we all can support the nominee. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #14

I don't recall writing that they're exactly the same. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #17

It's a meme going around here- saw Hil compared to Romney- then Malia and Sasha to Bush's kids on bettyellen Jun 2014 #22

I believe that you wrote that my post was more of "exactly the same" MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #23

the "blood money" is OTT. just as comping Clinton wealth with Romney wealth is..... bettyellen Jun 2014 #26

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ (But alas, it will doubtless fall on deaf ears.) 11 Bravo Jun 2014 #32

yep, if speaking fees are blood money, bad trade agreements murder..... bettyellen Jun 2014 #37

You have no idea the affects Nafta had on the poor and homeless. Phlem Jun 2014 #49

I actually do. It is still overheated rhetoric. And a naive line of thinking. bettyellen Jun 2014 #50

Oh I'm sure you do. Phlem Jun 2014 #56

You have absolutely no idea what I have experienced- but thanks anyway for the snark bettyellen Jun 2014 #60

Same here, and your welcome for the snark. Phlem Jun 2014 #64

Did someone actually compare Clinton wealth with Romney wealth? Dawgs Jun 2014 #45

Yep, I have seen the comparison 5-6 times in the last two days. bettyellen Jun 2014 #48

The last line of this OP is: bvar22 Jun 2014 #121

it's the "blood money" rhetoric that I- and many here- find OTT bettyellen Jun 2014 #129

First of all, all this talk about blood money is nothing but a straw man. hueymahl Jun 2014 #143

It renders the term blood money meaningless. bettyellen Jun 2014 #145

Congrats - Two logical falacies at once hueymahl Jun 2014 #148

With respect... davidthegnome Jun 2014 #150

I completely agree, but at this moment- discussing these candidates- it is what we are stuck with bettyellen Jun 2014 #154

I consider "we're stuck with it" to be a Third Way talking point woo me with science Jun 2014 #156

I'm pragmatic about where we are at the present moment bettyellen Jun 2014 #166

Merely saying that supporting a neoliberal candidate is "pragmatic" does not make it so. woo me with science Jun 2014 #168

again, you are making unfounded assumptions - where did I say I support Hillary? NOWHERE. bettyellen Jun 2014 #170

You're implying the OP is written by an "uninformed" citizen. 2banon Jun 2014 #152

No, I am saying it is hyperbole that the uninformed will take and run with. bettyellen Jun 2014 #155

If it comes from 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #20

Koch bros funded the DLC... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #144

Important point. woo me with science Jun 2014 #158

I love you too nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #27

I understand the Nafta and tpp opposition. believe me I do. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #29

Given what the economic policies have done nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #31

Technically I guess it is not. zeemike Jun 2014 #92

Glass-steagall was rendered impotent during the Reagan administration AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #125

She has blood on her hands Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #7

I am sorry but I don't agree. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #9

she does not samsingh Jun 2014 #15

Yes she does. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #21

Yeah, whatever........ Beacool Jun 2014 #54

and her husband has the blood of Iraqi children on his hands: Whisp Jun 2014 #115

How would you define "blood money"? nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #8

Not the Clinton speaking fees. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #10

this is not blood money. The Clinton's are fantastic. samsingh Jun 2014 #16

I don't get it either. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #18

Blood Money PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #136

"It ain't the money: it's the bull@#$%." Dawgs Jun 2014 #2

^ truth Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #30

I don't mind that Hillary is rich. I mind that she's a warmongering, TPP-backing neo-con. Scuba Jun 2014 #3

Other than H.Clinton's Iraq war vote, why is she called a warmonger? lumpy Jun 2014 #77

read where she said DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #85

Wow. What else? lumpy Jun 2014 #98

There is this little clip about Gaddafi and Libya: bvar22 Jun 2014 #122

That's not enough? Scuba Jun 2014 #113

What is her position on Syria? lumpy Jun 2014 #160

Maybe by "targeted response" she meant we'd buy Syrian refugees some food and clothing at Target. Scuba Jun 2014 #161

But she's a warmongering, TPP-backing neo-con with a "D" after her name, Maedhros Jun 2014 #102

Its all knee-jerk, Romney money - good. Clinton money - baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. marble falls Jun 2014 #6

Actually Romney is seen increasingly in the same club nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #28

Increasingly? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #39

Let me clarify, the 1% is seen as a mass nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #43

I think many of them are. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #46

I am deep in reading economic policy right now nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #51

I would consider Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #58

To your last point nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #62

I'm thinking more infrastructure Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #72

And that creates jobs , hopefully triggering nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #74

Again, hopefully so. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #75

PUMAEWMHPCSPUOE! onehandle Jun 2014 #12

Well you better inform some others here JaneyVee Jun 2014 #13

sigh. you persist in trying to falsely make this about people here hating rich people cali Jun 2014 #35

Sticking her foot in her mouth......uh uh... lumpy Jun 2014 #84

brilliant response! such depth. such meaning. cali Jun 2014 #88

You brilliance is noted, but Baby, you forgot to complete your sentences in a couple of your lines. lumpy Jun 2014 #97

What about the rich 3rd way. Phlem Jun 2014 #52

Hillary is fantastic! samsingh Jun 2014 #19

They made money the old fashioned way - by exploiting minorities. OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #70

Thank you for this post. woo me with science Jun 2014 #104

isn't this more about the factory owners? samsingh Jun 2014 #108

The factory owners OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #111

To rich folks, when "earning" money, slave labor is something of which one never thinks. Maedhros Jun 2014 #130

Haiti is Open for Business... Whisp Jun 2014 #141

I don't think it's about the money. MoonchildCA Jun 2014 #24

blood money? bigtree Jun 2014 #25

Can you say the Carlyle Group is not Blood Money 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #33

Thank you. These protestations are lame and absurd. woo me with science Jun 2014 #36

I hear Crickets 4Q2u2 Jun 2014 #61

K&R Of course it's blood money, both literally and figuratively. woo me with science Jun 2014 #34

+1 deutsey Jun 2014 #41

She worse that a fucking Republican, am I right? Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #47

It's the policies, Jeff. I think *you* need to calm down, woo me with science Jun 2014 #55

You're one, what am I? Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #105

Can you please stop making it personal for a moment and respond to the policies? woo me with science Jun 2014 #107

A fair point... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #110

You say, "fair point," yet your next sentence accuses me of "hurling personal insults at Democrats." woo me with science Jun 2014 #124

Baseless? Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #128

You are remarkably incapable of making, or refuting, effective arguments. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2014 #131

The constant denial of the link between predatory policies and economic and human despair woo me with science Jun 2014 #132

And all of this... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #139

An excellent way to end this exchange. Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2014 #153

Well said and exactly right. Number23 Jun 2014 #134

Wow you silver tongue devil remind me not to get in a policy debate with you. Nice retort woo n/t Drew Richards Jun 2014 #171

OMG Phlem Jun 2014 #66

You are right. 'A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing'. It is amazing to hear that Hillary is lumpy Jun 2014 #82

Hillary is not my favorite Democrat. JEB Jun 2014 #149

Sadly, anything connected with Wall St and bankers today is in essence blood money. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #38

Nicely said deutsey Jun 2014 #42

Wut, wut, wut? Phlem Jun 2014 #59

Now that you have discovered the cause of all the ills of mankind, what is your solution to lumpy Jun 2014 #83

The only solutions I can control are my own. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #142

Your pipe dreams are the pipe dreams of most of us, including me. lumpy Jun 2014 #163

BITCOINS!....snark... Drew Richards Jun 2014 #172

Well said. woo me with science Jun 2014 #135

Excellent points. Thank you for the thoughtful post. JEB Jun 2014 #151

much of their money came from book sales dsc Jun 2014 #40

Wow Manny. You SO nailed it here. I'd been worried about you, but closeupready Jun 2014 #44

The overwrought wild exaggerations that one has come to expect here. Beacool Jun 2014 #53

Given that is the exact language I heard nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #65

I won't need any smelling salts. Beacool Jun 2014 #67

And we hear WHOOOSHHHH!!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #68

What I'm trying to say is that this is all white noise, that it doesn't matter. Beacool Jun 2014 #71

You are right, at the individual level they do not matter nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #73

Except it's not. Elizabeth Warren is touted as the anti Hillary and she's very wealthy Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #157

Nice OP Manny. Phlem Jun 2014 #57

It ain't the money: it's the bull@#$%. 840high Jun 2014 #63

all great wealth is from blood money. unblock Jun 2014 #69

" i'm much more interested in senator warrens' amazing talents and plans than i am about hearing... bettyellen Jun 2014 #79

Oh please. Why not just compare the Clintons to Pol Pot or Stalin? NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #76

In the real world NAFTA, a product of Bill's economic policy, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #78

My job got shipped overseas, overnight, because of NAFTA. Phlem Jun 2014 #94

You will love the column I am working on for I guess tomorrow nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #95

Totally looking forward to it. Phlem Jun 2014 #96

Thanks for the mail! Phlem Jun 2014 #99

Need to go to county for the vote on budget nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #100

I know right? Phlem Jun 2014 #80

You want progress? You want higher living standards? NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #101

riiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttt. Phlem Jun 2014 #103

Nope. You definitely can be a liberal and not support Hillary. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #109

Says you. Phlem Jun 2014 #112

i thought liberals abandoned the party noiretextatique Jun 2014 #114

Sure, that's what it is. Phlem Jun 2014 #116

i totally agree with you noiretextatique Jun 2014 #117

I had a feeling we were in accord, sorry for coming off pissed. Phlem Jun 2014 #119

you too, Phelm noiretextatique Jun 2014 #120

The term "Liberal" has been coopted by moderate Republicans Maedhros Jun 2014 #133

This is what I'm trying to say. Phlem Jun 2014 #137

This is a very lame response woo me with science Jun 2014 #81

The OP actually compared them to beloved figures leftstreet Jun 2014 #90

They ARE comparing the Clintons with Pol Pot and Stalin. That is not the way to influence lumpy Jun 2014 #91

So did a lot of people. Which doesn't mean they'd make a decent president. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #86

By the time Bill Clinton left the WH there was only one reason I could still tolerate him tularetom Jun 2014 #87

DURec leftstreet Jun 2014 #89

Speaking of blood, there are too damn many people on this site who are willing to draw blood. lumpy Jun 2014 #93

I swear.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #106

I agree that the Clintons earned their money. Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #118

They weren't paid because they just walked in off the street AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #127

You realize you are posting a rational statement in this thread? BootinUp Jun 2014 #165

It ain't the money: it's the bull@#$%. bvar22 Jun 2014 #123

Yes, they did AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #126

"It ain't the money, it's the bullshit." Perfectly stated. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #138

Draft Senator Warren for President, 2016 (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #140

Do you think she 'earned' her 15 Million Dollars running a shelter for homeless bunny rabbits? Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #146

Why are you in favor of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #159

Everybody seems to have missed the last line: "It ain't the money: it's the bull@#$%." Says it all. marble falls Jun 2014 #147

Terms are very relative. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #162

Someone actually suggested to 1SBM that women, LGBTs and POC have some differences in priorities bettyellen Jun 2014 #167

Hey look. If you want to post fantasy about the Clintons BootinUp Jun 2014 #164

kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #169

kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #173