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jeff47

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76. 8 additional states would easily vote for some very bad things.

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:54 PM

Jun 2014

There are plenty of Democratic politicians who are afraid of being called anti-Christian. They'd easily vote to ratify an amendment declaring Christianity the state religion.

The 2nd amendment has that pesky "well-regulated militia" clause that could be a problem. Plus, there's restrictions on some things, like owning fully automatic weapons. There's plenty of Democratic politicians who'd ratify a "you can own any gun and take it anywhere" amendment.

Abortion? Good chance that'll be gone with a "life begins at conception" amendment.

And they'd easily get 8 additional votes for a literal "money is speech" amendment during the chaos created by the previous three.

Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure we could come up with plenty of other really, really bad things that would be ratified.

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California has just called for an Articale V Convention [View all] NCcoast Jun 2014 OP

Woo Hoo !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #1

Worst. Idea. EVER! MohRokTah Jun 2014 #2

And then 3/4 of the states will ratify those changes? NCcoast Jun 2014 #3

Better go looking at what party controls the legislatures of the states. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #5

Not a red-blue issue. radiclib Jun 2014 #21

Of course they are in favor of it Bartlet Jun 2014 #23

Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! longship Jun 2014 #25

the Freepers are rejoicing about this. grasswire Jun 2014 #30

Maybe you could provide me a link to that rejoicing NCcoast Jun 2014 #57

"(BTW, fleas suck ones blood.)" Plucketeer Jun 2014 #36

Exactly why I am afraid of this method dragonlady Jun 2014 #71

So you're opposed to ever amending the constitution in any way? hobbit709 Jun 2014 #4

Nope, just in the way it's been done the entire existence of the nation. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #6

I guess you like going around in steadily decreasing circles. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #7

No, I don't like risking the constitutiion to the whims of reps chosen by state legislatures. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #9

And just how do expect to change anything except as outlined in Article V? hobbit709 Jun 2014 #10

Use the same method that has been used as long as we have existed. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #11

Which is also spelled out in Article V. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #12

You're going in circles. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #14

Just following you. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #15

Yes you are, and you have tightened the noose until it looks like he choked. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #78

But that takes too long ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #56

You do realize the convention only PROPOSES amendments, right? It doesn't ratify anything. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #18

38 states have Republican legislatures MohRokTah Jun 2014 #26

And that's the case for ANY amendment. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #39

Only if you get it through Congress first. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #41

Republicans don't have close to 3/4 of state legislatures. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #43

It took 202 years to ratify the 27th amendment. tclambert Jun 2014 #46

Political will is required. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #48

A fucking straw man argument. longship Jun 2014 #28

The OP says "Article V Convention" What part of "Convention" do you not understand" yellowcanine Jun 2014 #67

Total nonsense. radiclib Jun 2014 #20

Read the text of the Article MohRokTah Jun 2014 #22

I've been wondering about that a bit: California's resolution makes reference petronius Jun 2014 #29

Yes, sorta. I wrote a paper on this in college for a Political Theory class. Chan790 Jun 2014 #65

I didn't say anything about specific amendments radiclib Jun 2014 #34

Each state has equal representation in the convention. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #40

Either you didn't read, or deliberately chose not to understand, what I said radiclib Jun 2014 #45

No, you are completely wrong. Bartlet Jun 2014 #27

I agree with everything in your first paragraph and never said anything different. radiclib Jun 2014 #44

Every Republican in my state is totally corrupt, as are half the Democrats. This is a bad idea. Scuba Jun 2014 #72

Countless Republicans who have not been corrupted? dragonlady Jun 2014 #73

The last times it was amended, it took a percentage of congress PLUS shraby Jun 2014 #54

That's not how Art. V conventions work. Chan790 Jun 2014 #64

True. Theoretically they could throw out the entire constitution and replace totodeinhere Jun 2014 #69

you are right--this is a threat, not an opportunity kiri Jun 2014 #74

We are currently being bled dry both of our liberties and wealth. The status quo will only rhett o rick Jun 2014 #85

I refuse to support an Article V convention MohRokTah Jun 2014 #86

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2014 #8

It can be done. pa28 Jun 2014 #13

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #16

As California goes, so goes the nation Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #17

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #19

ABSOLUTELY WORST IDEA EVER. OldRedneck Jun 2014 #24

I have always been taught how dangerous this is. grasswire Jun 2014 #31

More Info: WillyT Jun 2014 #42

It is playing with dynamite hueymahl Jun 2014 #80

+ struggle4progress Jun 2014 #38

True. A lot of right wingers have been calling for an Article V convention but for totodeinhere Jun 2014 #70

Congratulations California cantbeserious Jun 2014 #32

A little history on how we went from the Articles of Confederation ... Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #33

You are referring to the Constitutional Convention, which is different from Article V radiclib Jun 2014 #35

One more time: Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #37

There has not been an Article V convention in the entire history of this nation. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #49

First time for everything! radiclib Jun 2014 #50

I am positive an Article V Convention would make things worse. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #51

Just wondering.. radiclib Jun 2014 #53

So now you resort to an ad hominem in the form of a Fox News question. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #55

It very well might. At least some scholars believe that in an Article V Convention totodeinhere Jun 2014 #75

Thank you NCcoast Jun 2014 #52

California Dreamin' (thumbs up) K&R Babel_17 Jun 2014 #47

I'm not worried Dwayne Hicks Jun 2014 #58

8 additional states would easily vote for some very bad things. jeff47 Jun 2014 #76

No way Dwayne Hicks Jun 2014 #83

Democrats already voted for laws to enact such things. jeff47 Jun 2014 #84

Paul Ryan pushed this in 2012 to repeal the 14th Amendment with its clauses of freshwest Jun 2014 #59

I wouldn't argue with anything you've said NCcoast Jun 2014 #60

The amendment that has been offered is specific. No amendment in the Constitution after the 10th... freshwest Jun 2014 #61

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #62

Doooooo iiiiiiit Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #63

Being a Vermonter, I applaud California for following our lead salib Jun 2014 #66

Yes! One step closer to getting money out of politics. blackspade Jun 2014 #68

The people who like this really don't understand what they are unleashing. jeff47 Jun 2014 #77

You are 100% correct. It's the same thing I said upthread. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #79

Let me add to the Chorus - BAD, BAD IDEA!!!! hueymahl Jun 2014 #81

Just another feudal effort,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2014 #82