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scarletwoman

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27. First off, Gary Oldman is a Brit. So frankly, I don't get why he's spouting off about U.S. politics.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:56 PM - Edit history (1)

But he's been living in the U.S. since sometime in the early 90s, so I guess he somehow feels entitled to expressing his opinion about our politicians. Too bad.

I'm saddened to see this, since I've long considered him one of the most brilliant actors ever.

This comes down to the longstanding dilemma of whether one can separate the personal character of the artist from his/her body of art. I think of Jon Voigt as a particularly salient example of this - I will always appreciate his indelible performance in "Midnight Cowboy" - and no amount of knowing that he's a thoroughly right wing nut job will ever change my appreciation of that.

And as someone who was involved in theater in my younger years, I came across more instances than I can count of actors who performed exquisitely in roles as upright, honorable, appealing characters who were absolute jerks when you got to know them in real life. Actors are chameleons, and so many of them can take on all sorts of personas without in the least being anything like those personas in their true selves.

So, I'm sorry to find out that Gary Oldman is apparently one of those jerks - but I can't be surprised by it. I'll still appreciate his brilliance as an actor.

Edited to fix a glaring error - I originally cited Nick Nolte instead of Jon Voigt as the star of Midnight Cowboy. My thanks to the poster below who pointed out my error!

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Dammit. Now I have to go buy a copy of Playboy. You know, for the Interview (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #1
That's rough davidpdx Jun 2014 #41
"The Contender" is a great movie wheniwasincongress Jun 2014 #2
His character in that movie always makes my blood boil... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #8
Right, Oldman's character's motivation isn't sexist at all gratuitous Jun 2014 #3
who describes himself as a libertarian? abelenkpe Jun 2014 #4
"take a f-ing joke?" Have you no conscience, Old Man? alp227 Jun 2014 #5
Perfect magazine to carry the interview, too! redqueen Jun 2014 #7
"it’s not like I’m a fascist or a racist." Yeah, you just sling vile, bigoted, misogynist insults. redqueen Jun 2014 #6
yep, same bullshit so many are flinging here, quacking like Libertarians... bettyellen Jun 2014 #35
True, he has that going for him. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #44
So Oldman just likes being rude. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #9
He is wrong, Stewart would not ever call any woman the c word. He can't even own his own bigotry.. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #10
Oldman, take a look at your life... Blue Owl Jun 2014 #11
For the win!!! johnp3907 Jun 2014 #12
no wonder Uma dashed MFM008 Jun 2014 #13
Heh. Scurrilous Jun 2014 #40
/thread Initech Jun 2014 #43
I knew I never liked him. I thought he was awful in the remake of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Squinch Jun 2014 #14
I never saw the original. redqueen Jun 2014 #16
It was great. Alec Guinness is just fun to watch no matter what he is doing. Squinch Jun 2014 #17
i dont know who the man is. if i cared, i guess i could google and maybe recognize him. seabeyond Jun 2014 #21
I am pop-culture challenged, so I often have that experience. Squinch Jun 2014 #22
This is him in The Fifth Element, evil and very libertarian like too! Whisp Jun 2014 #24
i went thru all his many movies. airforce one. i saw that once, what? more than a decade ago? seabeyond Jun 2014 #25
Really?!! N.Y. to Paris Jun 2014 #15
amazing how his argument parallels du's argument of the last few days. oh, that is right. he is the seabeyond Jun 2014 #18
Yeah where are the defenders of freedom and free speech and the fighters of censuring censorship? redqueen Jun 2014 #19
and OWN those words women. they are us. take the crude and vulgar, the dirty and nasty and OWN it. seabeyond Jun 2014 #20
aw, a libertarian skunk. figures! Whisp Jun 2014 #23
... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #26
First off, Gary Oldman is a Brit. So frankly, I don't get why he's spouting off about U.S. politics. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #27
I think you mean Jon Voigt in Midnight Cowboy. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #30
Oh, wow - DUH! You're so right! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #31
ah ha. i hadnt heard anything about nolte. good to hear it is voigt. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #32
Don't worry-I hope I didn't offend you. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #38
He lives in Malibu and is afforded all the environmental protection this State's legislature can... Tikki Jun 2014 #28
can you imagine a father using seixst slurs at will? i could never. what that has to do to our seabeyond Jun 2014 #33
Poor Gary Oldman! He can't beat up on anyone he doesn't like! He can't say the N word muntrv Jun 2014 #29
It sometimes raises Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #34
+1. ya. that. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #36
another point not thinking this through. ultimately, there will be a time the rw uses the exact seabeyond Jun 2014 #37
Yes, and not even give a moment's thought BainsBane Jun 2014 #39
It is amazing how such good actors can be complete dicks davidpdx Jun 2014 #42
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