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davidthegnome

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181. Really?

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:12 AM

Jun 2014

Bernie may not be a democrat in the sense that he doesn't have that (D) by his name, but when it comes down to it, he's a hell of a lot more of a democrat than many "actual" democrats are. He may be an independent, but he is a liberal, progressive independent that many of us here would vote for even if he did run as an independent. That includes me, by the way. Can I not post here anymore? Should I be banned for wanting to vote for an actual progressive?

I'm here in support of policies and politicians from the left - even if the mainstream party would feel more comfortable if they'd all go "underground". I'm here in support of policies and politicians that fight for what a lot of us believe in. I'm here to support the good guys. Bernie is definitely one of the good guys.

Bernie sure as hell can be - and sure as hell IS supported here.

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Not waiting for Hillary: Sen. Bernie Sanders heads to New Hampshire [View all] cali Jun 2014 OP

Yowza!! K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #1

Good for him. I hope his trip is successful. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #2

Yes, the more candidate voices to counter those of corpratist, warmongering types the better. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #17

I agree there needs to be a primary. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #54

I just don't trust Hillary. ?See her as corporatist bjobotts Jun 2014 #168

I definitely see the difference; plain as the nose on your face. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #173

It's About Issues billhicks76 Jun 2014 #41

No matter who we nominate we will have a difficult time winning a third presidential term. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #57

Not if we tell the American people, "The GOP is the party of war." We wouldn't be lying. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #82

From your lips to God's ear! hrmjustin Jun 2014 #88

And then Bickle Jun 2014 #149

The War Against Education/FairPay/GunSense/Peace/etc. n/t Beartracks Jun 2014 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Jun 2014 #154

It's 2014, two years from now and everyone is claiming that Hillary is the de facto Aerows Jun 2014 #86

There will be a competitive primary. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #92

All this premature Aerows Jun 2014 #94

Good point. I hope we can all support the nominee. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #101

Absolutely! n/t Aerows Jun 2014 #109

So what do you suggest? I want to go down fighting not hanging desperately to the Status Quo. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #140

A good healthy primary. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #141

Yes I am certainly for that. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #142

Hopefully he can pull the national discussion Phlem Jun 2014 #3

that is his intent. he knows he can't win, but he also knows he can influence the debate cali Jun 2014 #7

I think he can win and hope he does. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #42

Never say never Demeter Jun 2014 #61

He might be pleasantly surprised. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #63

I want this more than anything (save for Ms. Warren getting in!) Plucketeer Jun 2014 #79

Love him, but the populist movement is behind Warren. Dawgs Jun 2014 #4

If Liz won't run, I'll support Bernie. I'm savoriong this for Bernie! Maybe Liz will clarify now? TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #46

She's said a hundred times that she's not running. Bette Noir Jun 2014 #96

The day someone other than Elizabeth Warren is elected President Aerows Jun 2014 #121

Yes. But Warren needs to run. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #64

agree Dawgs Jun 2014 #70

Yay!!! Run Bernie Run! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #5

In order for this to matter to me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #6

right. and if he runs, he will become a dem. Bernie is a very pragmatic guy. cali Jun 2014 #9

I'd want him to declare first. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #11

That is right lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #15

He will. grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #10

WooHoo!!! The game is on - Buh-Bye Hill (again, lol) CONTRIBUTE: grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #8

Yes. I argue against Hillary as a candidate, and I would not vote for her for president, JDPriestly Jun 2014 #66

Then you are not really a Democrat if you don't support whoever wins the primary... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #111

No. I am a Democrat. I've spent too many hours working the campaigns of Democrats JDPriestly Jun 2014 #118

Then you should trust your fellow Democrats.....and support THEIR decision.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #120

I live in California too and I hope even if you abstain zappaman Jun 2014 #132

Stop with the Democratic Party Purity Bulls@#$!! Strat54 Jun 2014 #137

Hyperbolic much? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #139

nope, that's purity crap... its borderline masochist looking at the alternative... uponit7771 Jun 2014 #179

^You are right. NOT a hard choice in the general. Strat54 Jun 2014 #198

Who do you think you are telling him what he is or isnt. I disagree with you. I will always rhett o rick Jun 2014 #143

OMG VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #145

These are your words, "Then you are not really a Democrat " That's audacity telling someone in DU rhett o rick Jun 2014 #146

No...voting for whom your fellow Democrats select....is being "Democratic" otherwise... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #147

Beating Republicans isnt important as maintaining Democratic principles. Dont give up your rhett o rick Jun 2014 #167

That poster spends most of his/her time telling others they are not Democrats or they shouldn't post Dragonfli Jun 2014 #158

Yeah, I'm sure it won't be long before we get the "friendly" "TOS reminder".... beerandjesus Jun 2014 #176

"Who do you think you are telling him what he is or isnt." zappaman Jun 2014 #164

You are once again so wrong. Authoritarians are those that worship their authoritarian rhett o rick Jun 2014 #166

Pot zappaman Jun 2014 #169

Once again your response reveals so much. Using Sid's ridicule emoticons is soo childish, but he rhett o rick Jun 2014 #170

Kettle. zappaman Jun 2014 #171

i agree haydukelives Jun 2014 #76

At his age it is now or never for him. former9thward Jun 2014 #12

I welcome them ALL to the race. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #18

I would like to vote for someone not on Social Security. former9thward Jun 2014 #20

I'd like to vote for someone who won't offer to cut it, regardless of their age. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2014 #40

What Skeeter Said!!!! Bette R. Daize Jun 2014 #44

Ditto TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #55

Ahhh, someone that can think for themselves, good. A Simple Game Jun 2014 #48

You win! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #83

That's because she thinks she's the middle class Dragonfli Jun 2014 #159

Elizabeth Warren isn't middle class either. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #190

But she doesn't think she is, or that raising the cap would hurt all those SIX and SEVIN FIGURE Dragonfli Jun 2014 #193

+1 leftstreet Jun 2014 #87

^^^AMEN!!!! Strat54 Jun 2014 #138

Can you name a good Democrat who isn't older? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #68

Martin O'Malley former9thward Jun 2014 #71

Neither can the majority of the electorate. Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #72

Yes, O'Malley and Grayson. Cal33 Jun 2014 #97

Jeff Merkeley, junior Senator from Oregon. Bette Noir Jun 2014 #99

yes, merkley works hard for the people hopemountain Jun 2014 #161

Either Castro brother... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #102

Good. We really need a much wider audience for voices like his. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #13

Bernie, THANK YOU. woo me with science Jun 2014 #14

Humongous K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #16

Go Bernie! democrank Jun 2014 #19

Going to have a good laugh when Bernie puts his support behind the Democratic Primary winner... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #21

oh c'mon. do you really "love.... Bernie"? cali Jun 2014 #26

Sure I do....and he is not going to run as a Dem....nor would he win the Primary even if he did...k VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #28

OK. I think I know just a tad more than YOU, 'nilla. He's my Senator. I know him cali Jun 2014 #34

BOOM I didn't say I knew ANYTHING about Bernie...other than he is NOT a Demcrat VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #98

Well people should stop "dreaming" and get out and vote for Bernie! TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #58

Pretty much. bigwillq Jun 2014 #59

So if you lived in Vermont you wouldn't vote for him? What scares you the word Socialist? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #60

What is to laugh about? djean111 Jun 2014 #69

Looking at how many Hillary for Prez threads are on truedelphi Jun 2014 #80

Yep. djean111 Jun 2014 #81

whoa, I can hear the loosening of the bowels in the Clinton camp Whisp Jun 2014 #22

And he doesn't speak in slogans and platitudes like most politicians arcane1 Jun 2014 #52

Yes, if Bernie were to win even 20, 30% in a Democratic primary Bette Noir Jun 2014 #103

She would have to pull hard in that direction to get the nom. She will not stay there tho. Whisp Jun 2014 #110

thank you, Senator Sanders noiretextatique Jun 2014 #23

He's been THE ONE all along! Now can we get a Ready for Bernie Bus wrapped up? Follow him everywhere TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #24

Go, Bernie, go Bernie! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #25

I'll vote for Senator Sanders no matter what he runs as... TheProgressive Jun 2014 #27

Then what are you doing here....this is Democratic Underground... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #30

Oh yes he can be. He's supported by the dems. If he runs for the nomination cali Jun 2014 #36

Senator Sanders has more true democratic principals than most 'registered Democrats'. TheProgressive Jun 2014 #50

+1000 MissDeeds Jun 2014 #90

Then why ISN'T He a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #104

Really? TheProgressive Jun 2014 #125

And He is a Democrat how? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #127

I really don't understand your issue here... TheProgressive Jun 2014 #130

Yes you do.....you understand it perfectly! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #131

Ok...thanks for playing... TheProgressive Jun 2014 #134

That one thinks he/she owns the site, has been that way since first coming and disrupting here. Dragonfli Jun 2014 #160

Progressives as well as conservatives such as yourself post here you know VR Dragonfli Jun 2014 #62

That was low, but you got nothing else but insults... Whisp Jun 2014 #67

It was an observation, not an insult Dragonfli Jun 2014 #75

Labels... TheProgressive Jun 2014 #128

And so do Ideologues and wolves in sheeps clothing too.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #107

Wolves in sheep's clothing, support free trade agreements and domestic spying Dragonfli Jun 2014 #117

Really? davidthegnome Jun 2014 #181

yes, and he is out there working and getting the word out hopemountain Jun 2014 #163

I'd take Bernie over any of the corporate owned Dems any day. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2014 #29

Thanks for the heads up..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #31

Oh, I don't have you on ignore already? Skeeter Barnes Jun 2014 #38

but you looove bernie, remember, 'nilla? cali Jun 2014 #175

Bernie 2016. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #32

Got to have this "conversation", to employ an Obama-ism. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #33

As an independent, so what the does for is irrelevant to Democratic candidates until Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #35

If he runs, he'll run as a democrat. Period. cali Jun 2014 #39

According to this article in "The Nation" he appears to lean that way. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2014 #45

Bernie is very pragmatic and determined. he doesn't do pointless cali Jun 2014 #47

The guy I'd like to see in the White House is Dick Blumenthal of CT... First Speaker Jun 2014 #37

Thereare actually a fair number of good, but hidden, democrats Armstead Jun 2014 #133

I am all for Bernie Sanders going for it. BootinUp Jun 2014 #43

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #49

Run Bernie run! MissDeeds Jun 2014 #51

Well, Eva, since he is your senator, sadoldgirl Jun 2014 #53

Can't he still run for Senate? He'd still win that. TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #65

Bernie was just re-elected in 2012 cali Jun 2014 #113

! pa28 Jun 2014 #56

The only way Bernie Sanders can impact the Democrats is to become a Democrat. Peacetrain Jun 2014 #73

I dunno. The New Deal happened because Dems pulled planks from the populist party platform. redqueen Jun 2014 #100

No doubt that Bernie carries a big stick as an Independent. Peacetrain Jun 2014 #105

I can not believe the number of people posting this nonsense. ieoeja Jun 2014 #188

I seriously doubt that he'll wind up running, and in this country he'd never win anyway... George II Jun 2014 #74

I'm sure the Koch brothers have a few mil set aside for Ind Bernie to a spiteful Nader in 2016. CK_John Jun 2014 #77

I fear no one that claims that challenging Hillary is being a "nader" Aerows Jun 2014 #85

If he runs as a Democrat, fine. If he runs as an Independent, he will most likely.... George II Jun 2014 #106

I believe the word "Democratic" was in my post Aerows Jun 2014 #116

Yes you did, I was just expanding on the thought and the speculation (not yours) that... George II Jun 2014 #119

I think Sanders genuinely cares about the US Aerows Jun 2014 #122

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #78

If I hear the implication that anyone who doesn't like Aerows Jun 2014 #91

We are on the same page. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #115

Those that want an inevitable Hillary Aerows Jun 2014 #84

Good! cprise Jun 2014 #89

Go, Bernie! Bette Noir Jun 2014 #93

THANK YOU!!!! DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #95

Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2014 #108

Bernie, Liz, Md.Gov. O'Malley -anybody but Goldman-Sachs darling,HRC! Divernan Jun 2014 #112

O'Malley is awesome Aerows Jun 2014 #124

Will work out well for Clinton... Mike Nelson Jun 2014 #114

she is a center right corporate politician. and a debate might not go so well for her cali Jun 2014 #123

"Center right"? BS That is a TeaLeft statement. RBInMaine Jun 2014 #148

center right. And anyone who thinks Eleanor Cliff is "teaLeft" is fucking plumb delusional cali Jun 2014 #151

For that you can thank the teabaggers, otherwise it would be a lot of "I agree with Governor (insert TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #135

He has MY Vote! joanbarnes Jun 2014 #126

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!!! SummerSnow Jun 2014 #129

Good. 840high Jun 2014 #136

HIP HIP HOORAY! ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #144

Please stay safe Unknown Beatle Jun 2014 #150

WOW - a candidate Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #152

I'd consider supporting Sanders davidpdx Jun 2014 #155

This makes my day. He's running and that's just what we need. Autumn Jun 2014 #156

I would rather vote for a Democratic candidate who actually is a Democrat. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2014 #157

I feel the same way about third way Democrat/Republicans. Dragonfli Jun 2014 #162

alright! now we're talkin' hopemountain Jun 2014 #165

We need to show America the true left !! It ain't Hillary folks. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #172

Bernie!! AzDar Jun 2014 #174

K&R!! nt raouldukelives Jun 2014 #177

With the comments on this board, herding Democrates is like herding cats. olegramps Jun 2014 #178

a small, hopeful, kick (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2014 #180

What's up with this purity crap? davidthegnome Jun 2014 #182

I am a registered Independent. bullsnarfle Jun 2014 #184

Didn't learn anything from 2000 eh? BootinUp Jun 2014 #185

On the contrary. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #187

You missed a couple BootinUp Jun 2014 #189

Where did I say that? davidthegnome Jun 2014 #196

We have to make sure dotymed Jun 2014 #183

Awesome. A real Democrat to vote for. obxhead Jun 2014 #186

Sanders would be a breath of fresh air...I've grown tired of legacy politics. NorthCarolina Jun 2014 #191

Talk about a dream come true! mentalslavery Jun 2014 #192

I would vote for Bernie in a nanosecond!!! n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #194

K&R woo me with science Jun 2014 #195

kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #197