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In reply to the discussion: Once Upon a Time, Liberals Hated the Individual Health Insurance Mandate [View all]Dance all you want to, I won't dislike you for it, but it has been a GOP plan for over 20 years
I am simply incapable of supporting Corporate first Republican measures no matter how they are re-branded and dressed up.
I can't do the 180 from progressive ideas without snapping my spine.
Third way Democrats lack a spine so it is much easier for them.
I am simply incapable of supporting Corporate first Republican measures no matter how they are re-branded and dressed up.
I can't do the 180 from progressive ideas without snapping my spine.
Third way Democrats lack a spine so it is much easier for them.
...dancing with common sense.
Rep. Anthony Weiner: Howard Dean Is Wrong, We Shouldnt Let The Perfect Be The Enemy Of The Good
By Igor Volsky
This morning, single-payer advocate and public option supporter Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) defended the merged Senate bill, arguing that its still worth passing. Its not that they got a bad bill on their hands, its a pretty good bill, Weiner said. I think that Howard Dean is wrong. And I dont think we should let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Asked what is it in this bill thats going to lower costs and provide more choice since Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) insisted on stripping the bill of the public option and the Medicare buy-in provision, Weiner argued that covering more Americans would minimize the cost shift from the uninsured:
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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2009/12/18/171132/weiner-dean/
By Igor Volsky
This morning, single-payer advocate and public option supporter Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) defended the merged Senate bill, arguing that its still worth passing. Its not that they got a bad bill on their hands, its a pretty good bill, Weiner said. I think that Howard Dean is wrong. And I dont think we should let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Asked what is it in this bill thats going to lower costs and provide more choice since Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) insisted on stripping the bill of the public option and the Medicare buy-in provision, Weiner argued that covering more Americans would minimize the cost shift from the uninsured:
WEINER: No, thats easy. I mean frankly, when you have 30 million people who are uninsured today going into hospital emergency rooms getting very expensive costs, passing along the burden. We in New York City pay $6 billion what could be in extra taxes for the uninsured. Theoretically, those people are going to be covered now, so theyre going to get better health care than theyre getting today.
ODONNELL: How if there is no public option?
WEINER: I understand there is no public option but there are 30 million people who are going to be getting health insurance who dont have it today. Those people are going to be getting more efficient less expensive care, not passing onto you and me higher costs. Thats a good thing. Thats an unvarnished good thing.
ODONNELL: How if there is no public option?
WEINER: I understand there is no public option but there are 30 million people who are going to be getting health insurance who dont have it today. Those people are going to be getting more efficient less expensive care, not passing onto you and me higher costs. Thats a good thing. Thats an unvarnished good thing.
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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2009/12/18/171132/weiner-dean/
Kucinich on the Affordable Care Act: "I hope the law is upheld."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503243
Bernie Sanders: The Court and Health Care
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002496175
Damn "Third way Democrats"
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Once Upon a Time, Liberals Hated the Individual Health Insurance Mandate [View all]
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
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That's because we didn't want insurance at all, just a universal health plan, but
Cleita
Apr 2012
#1
We "got stuck" with the insurance industry bill when the administration decided to stick us with it
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#5
Obama's health care plan in the primaries was the same as Hillary Clinton's plan, only
Liquorice
Apr 2012
#68
It will be far worse. This legislation was written by big business lobbyists. Need I say more?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#6
So just don't purchase it. You're not being forced to buy anything. Pay the tax instead.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#7
Having a reasonable Medicare for All payroll tax would be fine. Who is proposing that?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#21
You can choose to look at it that way or you can look at it as helping your fellow Americans.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#39
The Govt IS shouldering the cost. MILLIONS of new people will receive MediCare.
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#116
Paying taxes for a Medicare for All single payer system is good but that's not being proposed.
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#95
Their won't be millions of new recipients of Medicare. The qualifying age remains 65 years old.
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#124
Actually, because some people will qualify to have their premiums subsidized the government will
dflprincess
Apr 2012
#114
That's actually a good way of looking at it, being if you choose the tax it will be done during tax
FarLeftFist
Apr 2012
#118
The significant parts of the article of course BBI omitted those. Leads with the negative,
emulatorloo
Apr 2012
#25
I hope people don't listen to a guy in Romney's Health Care Policy Advisory Group
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#30
And the present "fight," where everyone argues for what they were once against, is very strange.
HiPointDem
Apr 2012
#59
Almost as offensive as passing far right wing legislation and calling it a liberal victory.
girl gone mad
Apr 2012
#45
You have neglected the needs of your own country, you need to convince people like Michael M. Rachli
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#92
i'd like to take this opportunity to thank you guys for the continued free entertainment...
dionysus
Apr 2012
#123
So did you embrace the Republican/RW support for mandatory private insurance ....
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#96
So how do you feel about mandatory private health insurance first proposed by right-wing Republicans
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#109
I have hated that Heritage Foundation POS for at least 20 years now, I must change 180 now
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#29
Dance all you want to, I won't dislike you for it, but it has been a GOP plan for over 20 years
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#49
None of that changes the reality that it is a bad Right Wing Idea from 20 years ago
Dragonfli
Apr 2012
#53
Blue links do not negate history, particularly history within easy memory.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2012
#75
It's the best we can do in a country that will not allow government based solutions.
mmonk
Apr 2012
#69
The mandate was a minor point of difference between Obama and Clinton's Healthcare plans.
JoePhilly
Apr 2012
#73
Once upon a time, liberals didn't post opinions from right-wing authors...nt
SidDithers
Apr 2012
#77
Are you denying the fact that Republicans proposed the mandate and liberal Democrats opposed it?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#84
So are you admiting that the article was absolutely true on corporate support for the mandate?
Better Believe It
Apr 2012
#94
American's concerns and lives are "off the table", the corrupt table that is
just1voice
Apr 2012
#99