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Thu Jun 26, 2014, 04:38 AM Jun 2014

Why Do Right-Wing Christians Think "Religious Freedom" Means Forcing Their Faith on You? [View all]

http://www.alternet.org/belief/why-do-right-wing-christians-think-religious-freedom-means-forcing-their-faith-you


Paul Clement, a lawyer arguing for Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood, speaks to the press outside the US Supreme Court on March 25, 2014 in Washington

Religious freedom: It’s one of the most fundamental American values, written directly into the First Amendment of the Constitution. Of course, true religious freedom requires a secular society, where government stays out of the religion game and leaves it strictly to individual conscience, a standard that runs directly against the modern conservative insistence that America is and should be a “Christian nation”. So what are people who claim to be patriots standing up for American values to do? Increasingly, the solution on the right is to redefine “religious freedom” so that it means, well, its exact opposite. “Religious freedom” has turned into conservative code for imposing the Christian faith on the non-believers.

While it seems like a leap even for the most delusional conservatives to believe that their religious freedom can only be protected by giving Christians broad power to force their faith on others, a new report from the People For the American Way shows how the narrative is constructed. The report shows that Christian conservative circles have become awash in legends of being persecuted for their faith, stories that invariably turn out to be nonsense but that “serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.” This sense of persecution, in turn, gives them justification to push their actual agenda of religious repression under the guise that they’re just protecting themselves.

The most obvious and persistent example of this is the issue of creationism in the classroom. Clearly, teaching creationism in a biology classroom is a straightforward violation of the First Amendment, a direct attempt to use taxpayer money to foist a very specific religious teaching on captive students. So what the right does is reframe the issue, arguing that teaching evolutionary theory is a form of religious oppression, a direct attack on the beliefs of fundamentalists in the classroom. This is pure hooey, of course, since evolutionary theory is not a religion but a scientific reality, and teaching science as science is no more a violation of religious freedom than teaching kids to that “cat” rhymes with “hat” is an imposition of religion. But once they’ve convinced themselves that learning science in the science classroom is religious persecution, than it becomes easier to convince yourself that it’s okay to “fight back” by forcing your actual religion on everyone else.

You can see this play out in the legends that PFAW details out. Do Christian conservatives want to force their religious hostility to gays onto the military? Tell a lie about how a sergeant was persecuted for simply holding that religious belief to paint yourself as the “real” victim. Want to justify forcing non-believing kids to pray to your god in school? Tell lies about how kids are being punished for having private prayers all to themselves. Want to force people in the VA hospital to sing your religious songs and worship your god? Spread a false tale claiming that people aren’t allowed private ownership of religious cards. Tell enough of these stories and people on the right can convince themselves the only way they can protect their own right to worship is to force their religious practice on everyone else.
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Because they're jerkoffs Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #1
+100 freshwest Jun 2014 #24
It reminds me of this. Unknown Beatle Jun 2014 #59
True enough Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #62
A perversion wrapped in the cloak of bigotry, hate, and oppression. obxhead Jun 2014 #2
Freedom of religion necessarily includes Freedom from religion. retired rooster Jun 2014 #13
retired rooster? This old broad of a deep blue Dem agrees 100%. Thank you. raven mad Jun 2014 #53
It goes back to the notion that the Pilgrims fled to the US hedgehog Jun 2014 #3
Pilgrims v Puritans proReality Jun 2014 #19
I wish all their boats had sunk halfway across the pond. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #58
Evolution in church Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #4
Because if the Coyote looks down and realizes there's no cliff under him, he falls. Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #5
LOL...So true!!! nt The Road Runner Jun 2014 #32
+2 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #49
It's the same for any "fundamentalist" The Traveler Jun 2014 #6
Well said! Take away the labels and they are all the same despite location and religion. It's all RKP5637 Jun 2014 #27
41,000 Christian sects in the world today (Wikipedia) safeinOhio Jun 2014 #7
Religion, one of the most dangerous inventions of mankind. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #28
They want it all Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #8
Quoting Joshua Cartoonist Jun 2014 #45
In many religions anyone who does not believe as they do are is wrong, it is taught in churches. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #9
It's bizarre Cosmocat Jun 2014 #11
You probably listened very well, I left the SBC because i felt uncomfortable with the Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #36
... because most can not think for themselves, they are just blind followers and parrots spouting RKP5637 Jun 2014 #30
Just as prejudices have survived for eons i think it is what they want to believe Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #35
Doublethink is a requirement for conservative "thought" in America today Martin Eden Jun 2014 #10
And, it isn't going to get any better Cosmocat Jun 2014 #12
Time **might** be on our side Martin Eden Jun 2014 #37
If we don't let them impose their religious beliefs on all of us then we are persecuting them. stillwaiting Jun 2014 #14
The word you seek is Talibornagain. nt HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #29
Actually, it goes further than that, it is likely a brain function. RKP5637 Jun 2014 #31
"Persecuted," my ass. AngryOldDem Jun 2014 #15
Because proselytizing is what many faithful adherents to religion do. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #16
A Persecution Complex RadicalGeek Jun 2014 #17
The essence of many religions is control. merrily Jun 2014 #18
Forcing their religious beliefs on others is their religion. another_liberal Jun 2014 #20
They certainly surround themselves with a lot of militarization. Often their slogans, RKP5637 Jun 2014 #33
Onward Christian Soldiers ... Yep! They'd burn homosexuals at the stake if they could. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #38
As a youth,most of the activities I saw with the faithful were violence, racism, hatred and bigotry. RKP5637 Jun 2014 #44
American Christian... sendero Jun 2014 #21
^^ This justiceischeap Jun 2014 #22
THIS ^^^ n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #34
Everything? Remember when he cussed out a fig tree for not fruiting out of season? Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2014 #48
+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #50
To them 'religious freedom' means freedom to be a right wing Christian ck4829 Jun 2014 #23
Because they mistakenly & ignorantly believe that this country was founded on Christian principles. CrispyQ Jun 2014 #25
They believe to be free you must submit liberal N proud Jun 2014 #26
Just like their adherence to Biblical Scripture. It's the word of ''God'' word for word and must be YOHABLO Jun 2014 #39
When convenient liberal N proud Jun 2014 #65
Why do left wing Christians such as myself have to put up with LW1977 Jun 2014 #40
why are you so threatened by what they think? Skittles Jun 2014 #43
Because bigotry respects no political, racial, or religious boundaries. Psephos Jun 2014 #60
The proselytizing is called "The Great Commission". Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2014 #41
Tell them you're a Calvinist XemaSab Jun 2014 #55
The puppeteers have a fascist agenda. The foot soldiers have cartoon brains. nt valerief Jun 2014 #42
recovering fundie mississippi62 Jun 2014 #46
They don't care about YOUR freedom. They want the freedom to bring back the Inquisition. tclambert Jun 2014 #47
Because that is how the scum of the earth think. Lint Head Jun 2014 #51
Belief requires consensus Warpy Jun 2014 #52
I still appreciate, and always will, my brother's reply to a RW "evangelist" circa 1970...... raven mad Jun 2014 #54
If they can't force their religion on you, then their other strategy is bullying and name calling.. Tikki Jun 2014 #56
It is outrageous that we try to enforce secularism abroad when nation-building... EEO Jun 2014 #57
Obama, in his Prayer Breakfast speech, claimed that religion is "under attack," and that weaponizing blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #64
Not good. There is rarely to never a secular option. EEO Jun 2014 #66
Because they think the current Supreme Court will support them on this. Kablooie Jun 2014 #61
Because if they can force their beliefs into your life..... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #63
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